Hey

I committed some changes to GD today, you no longer "buy" planets but
"explore" for them (ok it's more or less buying them)

However, buing planets comes with exploration costs, which is dependent
on how many you have.

So if you have 10 ore planets and want to explore for another 10, it will
cost: 2000 * 10 + 20 * 100 = 22000

I'm trying to regin in growth a little bit..

Any suggestions are welcome :)

Andrew


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cost: 2000 * 10 + 20 * 100 = 22000

Is this just for Ore Planets or for Factory/Production Planets as well?

As well, Urban planets and Food Planets?

I also think it would be interesting to tie in Ore & Production planets into how quickly you can build your command ship. Not only do you have to have
$### but must have XXX amoung of Ore and XXX amount of production
capability... That would also slow down the ability to build the command
ship, but it makes sense since building a ship requires both Ore and
Factories to make the Parts....

Just a thought.

Gary

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Is this just for Ore Planets or for Factory/Production Planets as well?
As well, Urban planets and Food Planets?

For all planet types, I was just using ore planets as an example.

I also think it would be interesting to tie in Ore & Production planets into how quickly you can build your command ship. Not only do you have t have $### but must have XXX amoung of Ore and XXX amount of production capability... That would also slow down the ability to build the command ship, but it makes sense since building a ship requires both Ore and Factories to make the Parts...

Could be interesting. Not sure how to do it. Perhaps have new kinds of 'currency' called 'ore' and 'doodads' that ore and industrial planets
produce instead of credits. Then credits are only gained by taxes or
selling 'ore' and 'doodads' but various things like fighters and defence stations cost some 'ore' and 'doodads' as well as credits to produce?

Andrew


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'currency' called 'ore' and 'doodads' that ore and industrial planets produce instead of credits. Then credits are only gained by taxes or selling 'ore' and 'doodads' but various things like fighters and defence stations cost some 'ore' and 'doodads' as well as credits to produce?

Hmmm. I know changes/adds are dependent on how the actual code is structured, and how the data items are... But I think making the new type(s) of currency would be a good way to approach it. It sounds like a lot of re-write and re-coding things... I do not want to suggest things that will make you pull your hair out... 'Twas just an idea... :)

Gary

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Hmmm. I know changes/adds are dependent on how the actual code is structured, and how the data items are... But I think making the new type(s) of currency would be a good way to approach it. It sounds like a lot of re-write and re-coding things... I do not want to suggest things that will make you pull your hair out... 'Twas just an idea... :

Hehe, all good. Shouldn't be too much work to add those currencys, but I
might wait and see what Dan thinks about the idea as well before I do
anything.

Right now I'm installing synchronet to see if I can figure out dosemu
with it. :) Just somthing to do.

Andrew


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might wait and see what Dan thinks about the idea as well before I do anything.

Sounds like a plan...

Right now I'm installing synchronet to see if I can figure out dosemu
with it. :) Just somthing to do.

Oh cool. Are you doing that based on my door-game issue at BBSLink? It
would be cool if you could help figure that one out. Let me know if you get Synchronet on Linux/DOSEmu working... I will send you my (Pre-Release) of
Break The Web so maybe you can figure out how to do it, then I can tell the
guy at BBSLink how to do it also... (Or maybe you can if you want, I can give you his Email Address..)

Let me know what you want to do...

Gary Crunk

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garycrunk said....

Right now I'm installing synchronet to see if I can figure out dosemu with it. :) Just somthing to do.

Oh cool. Are you doing that based on my door-game issue at BBSLink? It would be cool if you could help figure that one out. Let me know if you get Synchronet on Linux/DOSEmu working...

Well that was my thinking, but I can't seem to even get synchronet working, for some reason SCFG just hangs.

I don't think I'm going to be much help sorry.

Andrew
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On 09/22/17, apam said the following...

I committed some changes to GD today, you no longer "buy" planets but "explore" for them (ok it's more or less buying them)

That makes sense. Good idea!

So if you have 10 ore planets and want to explore for another 10, it will cost: 2000 * 10 + 20 * 100 = 22000

I'm trying to regin in growth a little bit..

That will slow the growth down... How will I ever achieve a negative score
with you making all these changes? lol ;)


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On 09/22/17, apam said the following...

Could be interesting. Not sure how to do it. Perhaps have new kinds of 'currency' called 'ore' and 'doodads' that ore and industrial planets produce instead of credits. Then credits are only gained by taxes or selling 'ore' and 'doodads' but various things like fighters and defence stations cost some 'ore' and 'doodads' as well as credits to produce?

What if the ore was mined, and the industrial planets used the ore to make parts for the command ship or weapons for the military units?

I'm just throwing some more ideas out there... :)


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On 09/21/17, garycrunk said the following...

a lot of re-write and re-coding things... I do not want to suggest
things that will make you pull your hair out... 'Twas just an idea... :)

I've seen Andrew's picture on GitHub. He has a lot of hair to pull out... ;)

Actually, I'm jealous of how much hair he has...


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On 09/22/17, apam said the following...

Hehe, all good. Shouldn't be too much work to add those currencys, but I might wait and see what Dan thinks about the idea as well before I do anything.

I'm all in favor of the idea. After this in implemented, you might be able to use the completion of the command ship as the end-game.

Right now I'm installing synchronet to see if I can figure out dosemu
with it. :) Just somthing to do.

I've got it running here under Ubuntu. It's actually a pain to get going and keep going, in my opinion. I think it's because of the environments that need to be set...

Right now, I'm just using the newslink.js from Synchronet to get the usenet messages for the BBS. I'm cheating though, and calling it as a crontab job. :)


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I'm all in favor of the idea. After this in implemented, you might be
able to use the completion of the command ship as the end-game

Sounds good to me, I'll start work on this soon.

I attacked you in-game the other day and I saw you attacked me back, did
the battle messages look legit? You completley wiped my forces out, you
didn't send one troop this time?

I've got it running here under Ubuntu. It's actually a pain to get going and keep going, in my opinion. I think it's because of the environments that need to be set..

Yeah I don't know what the issue was, but it may not have been
synchronet. I installed it on ubuntu on a VMware virtual machine, when I
ran SCFG it just froze, so left it and did other things, when I came back
the machine had kernel panicked.

Andrew


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On 09/22/17, apam said the following...

I attacked you in-game the other day and I saw you attacked me back, did the battle messages look legit? You completley wiped my forces out, you didn't send one troop this time?

Yes, you seemed to destroy quite a few of my defense stations. I did lose a fair amount of troops as well.

Hehehe, nope. I sent a bunch. Your score was getting too high. ;)


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I'm all in favor of the idea. After this in implemented, you might be
able to use the completion of the command ship as the end-game

Ok, so I've just pushed some basic changes adding sprockets and ore.
Sprockets are used to build the command ship, ore is used to fuel
industrial planets which make sprockets.

As this changes the user database, games will need to be reset (test
games, not the interbbs one :)

I've set it up on exotica, it's the second galactic dynasty on the doors
menu. Feel free to test it out there or set it up on your BBS if you
wish, but this is a huge change in game play so hopefully it works out
and all our citizens don't starve :)

Andrew


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On 09/22/17, apam said the following...

Ok, so I've just pushed some basic changes adding sprockets and ore. Sprockets are used to build the command ship, ore is used to fuel industrial planets which make sprockets.

Wow, that was quick!

I've got it running here. The changes really seem to slow the progress down
at the start. I think I'll have to change my entire strategy now... :)

I've set it up on exotica, it's the second galactic dynasty on the doors menu. Feel free to test it out there or set it up on your BBS if you
wish, but this is a huge change in game play so hopefully it works out
and all our citizens don't starve :)

I haven't seen a problem with feeding the citizens. I played my turns, and
food wasn't a problem at all. It does make building your military a little tougher...


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Wow, that was quick!

Hehe, it wasn't too complicated a change, and I only changed the bare
minimum so we could see if it would work before spending too much time
tweaking it.

I haven't seen a problem with feeding the citizens. I played my turns,
and food wasn't a problem at all. It does make building your military a little tougher..

Yeah, it seems to be, but at least it's tougher for everyone. It does
feel like all my turns are spent deciding which planets to aquire, which
I guess is about the same as it used to be, just now it has a bigger
impact.

Be interesting to see how hard/easy it is in a few days of play.

Andrew

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On 09/22/17, apam said the following...

Yeah, it seems to be, but at least it's tougher for everyone. It does
feel like all my turns are spent deciding which planets to aquire, which
I guess is about the same as it used to be, just now it has a bigger impact.

I'm just glad that I was able to purchase more than 2 on my second day of playing. (I'm glad I installed it before midnight...) I think I can now purchase 4 or 5, depending on which planets.

Be interesting to see how hard/easy it is in a few days of play.

It is going to be interesting. I have noticed that I purchase urban, to increase credits, but that also increases the need for food... The purchasing has to be balanced now, or the player will get into trouble. :)


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On 09/22/17, apam said the following...

Hehe, it wasn't too complicated a change, and I only changed the bare minimum so we could see if it would work before spending too much time tweaking it.

Well, I think I found an 'undocumented feature' in the game...

I had gone to the bank, and withdrew enough credits to afford the number of planets that I wanted. I then bought those planets, which should have left me with 0 credits on hand. However, the following is what I had...


Buy Stuff Your funds: 4294967196 credits ===========================[Price]=[You Have]=[Can Afford
(1) Troops 100 2282 42949671
(2) Generals 500 30 8589934
(3) Fighters 1000 10 4294967
(4) Defence Stations 1000 52 4294967
(5) Command Ship 40000SPK 3% no
(6) Colonize Planets 165 ...
(7) Food 100 1097 42949671
(8) Spies 5000 0 858993

Of course I deposited those credits into the bank, which now shows a negative number, but it also shows that I will receive 208000 in interest each day...

Not a bad deal, but I do know there is an issue somewhere... :)


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Well, I think I found an 'undocumented feature' in the game...

Thanks for that.. should be fixed now.

Andrew


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On 09/23/17, apam said the following...

Well, I think I found an 'undocumented feature' in the game...

Thanks for that.. should be fixed now.

Dang, that was quick... :)

I've updated the game I've got running here...

Thanks,


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Dang, that was quick... :)

Yeah, it was a silly mistake took me a few minutes to realize what I'd
done but when I did..facepalm

Basically I was adding the newly bought planets before removing the
credits so it was actually charging you too much, and overflowing the
unsigned integer.

Oh well haha

Andrew

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