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  • Re: Attempted Assassinati

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Wed Jul 17 15:43:24 2024
    IB Joe mentioned a rumor that the gunman was confronted on the roof by a local policeman. Although the report didn't mention "on the roof," it
    did say that a LEO did confront the gunman and then retreated.

    The report also said that the current head of the Secret Service was taking responsibility for what happened, but would not step down.

    So far, it looks like a mistake was made by local police (whoever those officers near the shooter are.) But the narrative coming from Washington is that "it's the head of the secret service's fault." Somebody is definitely creating a distraction here, but I can't tell who it is for sure.

    In the video, it's just a lady who saw the guy on the roof, but this lad close to the gunman and far away from the president.

    There is something odd about that. It sounds like there were some people "wandering around" either just inside of, or just outside of, the
    security perimeter that were able to see the gunman. I wonder why they were allowed to be there if they really were not a part of the rally?

    Yea obviously the people who were anywhere near the shooter were not people who were screened.

    I'm not a security expert either, but I agree with you that unchecked spectators, 300 yards away or whatever, is a bad idea. They should stick with indoor rallies.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Mike Powell on Wed Jul 17 15:46:36 2024
    until it was too late. The state's legislature did it all while we were >sleeping, in one night.

    Chances are that your state legislature has a website where you can keep track of what bills are proposed, up for vote, etc. You local media will mention some of them during newscasts but other news, like about what Trump has said or done today, etc., will push more boring stories about the legislature out of the news cycle.

    There is, but I never bothered reading (for example) the state senate's website until after all the chaos began. But even if that information was available, people are still right to be angry. We're sheeple; we rely on the media to tell us everything. They didn't tell us that "Today there's a slight chance of rain, and tomorrow morning the jails will be empty."

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jul 18 07:27:09 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Standard Elitist Play: Distract everyone to focus on Topic 1, while you quietly pass legislation on Topic 2 so no one will notice or complain.

    The media doesn't provide much coverage of things that happen in the
    New York government. We woke up one day to discover that bail was
    reformed and that the jails were literally being emptied as a result.
    And we never saw it coming until it was too late. The state's
    legislature did it all while we were sleeping, in one night.

    And not in an election year. All on purpose.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Jul 18 08:39:00 2024
    The report also said that the current head of the Secret Service was taking responsibility for what happened, but would not step down.

    So far, it looks like a mistake was made by local police (whoever those officers near the shooter are.) But the narrative coming from Washington is that "it's the head of the secret service's fault." Somebody is definitely creating a distraction here, but I can't tell who it is for sure.

    It is now out that the Secret Service knew about the shooter and his whereabouts (but maybe didn't see a gun) for ~20 minutes prior to when he
    took his shots.

    I believe that seems like too long a time. However, I also believe that if Crooks had turned out to be a Trump supporter who was only trying to get a better view, and the Secret Service shot him dead without seeing a gun,
    there'd be people arguing here, the internet, and everywhere that the Secret Service did something horrible and "murdered a Trump supporter."

    15 or more years ago, I don't think that'd been much of an issue... people
    had more sense back then... but it damn sure is now.

    One other thing we *don't* know... if the Secret Service knew of a possible threat and told Trump's team about it, which they could have (they
    certainly had *time* to), who is to say that it was not the Trump Team's decision to bring Trump out anyway.

    Yea obviously the people who were anywhere near the shooter were not people wh
    were screened.

    I'm not a security expert either, but I agree with you that unchecked spectators, 300 yards away or whatever, is a bad idea. They should stick with indoor rallies.

    They could have just been hot and looking for shade but I believe someone should have been there to herd them back into the rally area, or out of
    the area, whichever the appropriate case.


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