Well not totally down, outgoing calls will not be affected for more than a minute or two, incoming calls are more uncertain.

The reason is that I'm changing ISP that day (March 21st). The change-over should be fairly quick, but I'll get a new IP number, and changing the DNS entries will take a little longer. How long depends among other things on how soon I'll be aware of the actual change-over and the associated TTL.




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Hello Bj�rn,

On Tuesday February 19 2019 13:50, you wrote to All:

The reason is that I'm changing ISP that day (March 21st).

Does the new ISP offer native IPv6?


Cheers, Michiel

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The reason is that I'm changing ISP that day (March 21st).

MvdV> Does the new ISP offer native IPv6?

Strangely enough, no. Even though they ran the Swedish IPv6 endpoint for SiXXs and now is running it for he.net (I think).

But I'll keep on nagging...

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On 19.2.2019 16.51, Bj�rn Felten wrote:

The reason is that I'm changing ISP that day (March 21st).

MvdV> Does the new ISP offer native IPv6?

Strangely enough, no.

So you will continue with the HE tunnel and there will be no change of
the ipv6 address. Only the tunnel ipv4 endpoint will change, and that
lasts about one millisecond. :)

Tunnel with static address is better that dynamic native. ;D

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So you will continue with the HE tunnel and there will be no change of
the ipv6 address. Only the tunnel ipv4 endpoint will change, and that lasts about one millisecond. :)

Totally correct, isn't it? I even have a batch file that'll make all the changes both on he.net as well as NETSH on my XP setup.

Tunnel with static address is better that dynamic native. ;D

LOL! Yes, so it seems. Right, Michiel? 8-)



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Hello Bj�rn,

On Tuesday February 19 2019 16:38, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

Tunnel with static address is better that dynamic native. ;D

LOL! Yes, so it seems. Right, Michiel? 8-)

Eehmmm... No, I beg to differ.

I have experience with both tunnels and native dynamic IPv6.

While a static IP has advantages, it is not essential for most applications. Fidonet runs fine on a (quasi) dynamic setup. Occasional short interuptions (< 10 min) of reachability hardly affect mail flow.

Both SixXs and he.net provided excellent and stable services, but I never got more than about half the IPv4 download speed on my tunnels. The frustrating part is that I never could figure out why. Also with the he.net tunnel I was geolocated in the USA which caused other problems. Plus the MTU limits.

So no, a tunnel with a static address is not better than dynamic native. The pros of native exceed the cons of dynamic.


Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> but I never got more than about half the IPv4 download speed on my tunnels.

Same here:

DOWNLOAD
55,41 Mbit/s
UPLOAD
44,17 Mbit/s
RESPONSE TIME
25,30 ms

As opposed to:

DOWNLOAD
114,09 Mbit/s
UPLOAD
113,66 Mbit/s
RESPONSE TIME
5,65 ms

http://www.bredbandskollen.se/en/ with my 100/100Mbit/s connection.

But I think that's more than enough to service Fidonet. The millisecond delay when changing IP is far more valuable.

Via TOR I get less than a tenth of that speed. So needless to say, going via some kind of tunnel will always be detrimental to the speed. And so is ISS for html download speed. Torrent speed is way more efficient:

https://thepiratebay.org/user/baloo2.1




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On 02-19-19 18:14, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Bj�rn Felten <=-

Tunnel with static address is better that dynamic native. ;D

LOL! Yes, so it seems. Right, Michiel? 8-)

Eehmmm... No, I beg to differ.

I have experience with both tunnels and native dynamic IPv6.

Oddly enough, I've never had native dynamic IPv6. My native has always been static (at a modest additional cost). Incidentally, my IPv4 is also static as part of the same deal.

While a static IP has advantages, it is not essential for most applications. Fidonet runs fine on a (quasi) dynamic setup. Occasional short interuptions (< 10 min) of reachability hardly affect mail flow.

Oddly enough, FTN is highly tolerant of intermittent connectivity. I wonder why. ;)

BTW, what do you use for DDNS so other nodes can find you? Who or what does IPv6 DDNS? I haven't looked for years (no need!), but for a while there was nothing.

Both SixXs and he.net provided excellent and stable services, but I
never got more than about half the IPv4 download speed on my tunnels.
The frustrating part is that I never could figure out why. Also with
the he.net tunnel I was geolocated in the USA which caused other problems. Plus the MTU limits.

Of all the tunnel providers I've used, these two were the best and most stable,
but at the time I was using tunnels, there were no POPs for these providers in Australia, meaning long and highly suboptimal routing. I think that's also your speed issue - the distance between the POP and you. The international lonks can't give you your full share of bandwidth. Try doing a speedtest.net to the USA and see what happens. I haven't tried the USA, but EU from here often only gets a few Mb/s on my 100/40 connection, which can sustain 80 Mb/s when using a local test server.

So no, a tunnel with a static address is not better than dynamic
native. The pros of native exceed the cons of dynamic.

But native and static beats them all. ;)


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BTW, what do you use for DDNS so other nodes can find you? Who or what does IPv6 DDNS? I haven't looked for years (no need!), but for a while there was nothing.

Synchronet's DDNS was the first to support DDNS for IPv6 (That I know of). No-ip also supports IPv6 these days.

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Try doing a speedtest.net to the USA and see what happens.

I tried Sweden to Darwin and the result was really disappointing. 1.4MBit/s in both directions on my 100/100 fibre.

You're really in dire need of getting a more potent ocean fibre connecting you to the rest of the world. 8-)




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BTW, what do you use for DDNS so other nodes can find you? Who or what does
IPv6 DDNS? I haven't looked for years (no need!), but for a while there was
nothing.

he.net does it all for you. It even gives you a batch file that you can use any time you want, updating your present IPv4 as the endpoint whenever you run it. I just love it.... 8-)



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On 19 Feb 2019, Bj�rn Felten said the following...

You're really in dire need of getting a more potent ocean fibre connecting you to the rest of the world. 8-)

Lets fix it up in the country first :)

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On 02-19-19 14:08, Alan Ianson wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

BTW, what do you use for DDNS so other nodes can find you? Who or what

does

IPv6 DDNS? I haven't looked for years (no need!), but for a while there

was

nothing.

Synchronet's DDNS was the first to support DDNS for IPv6 (That I know
of). No-ip also supports IPv6 these days.

Cool, Now that you mention it, I recall Synchronet's DDNS being upgraded for IPv6. :) All good to know.


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On 02-19-19 23:46, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Try doing a speedtest.net to the USA and see what happens.

I tried Sweden to Darwin and the result was really disappointing. 1.4MBit/s in both directions on my 100/100 fibre.

That sounds about right.

You're really in dire need of getting a more potent ocean fibre connecting you to the rest of the world. 8-)

There's actually quite a lot of fibre running in all directions out of AU, but there's also lots of ocean and traffic. :D


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On 02-19-19 23:57, Bj�rn Felten wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

he.net does it all for you. It even gives you a batch file that you
can use any time you want, updating your present IPv4 as the endpoint whenever you run it. I just love it.... 8-)

We were talking about dynamic native IPv6, no he.net or other tunnels.


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On 02-20-19 04:07, Deon George wrote to Bj�rn Felten <=-

On 19 Feb 2019, Bj�rn Felten said the following...

You're really in dire need of getting a more potent ocean fibre connecting you to the rest of the world. 8-)

Lets fix it up in the country first :)

:D


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On 20.2.2019 8.04, Tony Langdon -> Bj�rn Felten wrote:

We were talking about dynamic native IPv6, no he.net or other
tunnels.

I believe he.net also offers ipv6 dyndns service without tunnel.

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi!

20 Feb 2019 10:49, from Tommi Koivula -> Tony Langdon:

We were talking about dynamic native IPv6, no he.net or other
tunnels.

I believe he.net also offers ipv6 dyndns service without tunnel.

Correct
https://dns.he.net/

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On 20.2.2019 10.57, Richard Menedetter wrote:

20 Feb 2019 10:49, from Tommi Koivula -> Tony Langdon:

We were talking about dynamic native IPv6, no he.net or other
tunnels.

 TK> I believe he.net also offers ipv6 dyndns service without tunnel.

Correct
https://dns.he.net/

Yep!

Dyn.com also supports ipv6 & ipv4 dynamic updates, but if the most
third-party updaters update the ipv4 address only, the ipv6 address disapperars.

But the "standard dyndns" curl script works very well. :)

'Tommi

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On 02-20-19 10:49, Tommi Koivula wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

On 20.2.2019 8.04, Tony Langdon -> Bj�rn Felten wrote:

We were talking about dynamic native IPv6, no he.net or other
tunnels.

I believe he.net also offers ipv6 dyndns service without tunnel.

Oh, OK. Again, I've never had reason to look it up. :)


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Hello Alan!

19 Feb 19 14:08, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

Synchronet's DDNS was the first to support DDNS for IPv6 (That I know
of). No-ip also supports IPv6 these days.

he.net also supports DDNS for IPv6. I use them for my node. I actually do still use an he.net tunnel for IPv6 internet access at my girlfriend's apartment, since her ISP still is not making any effort to implement IPv6.

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Hello Tommi!

20 Feb 19 10:49, you wrote to Tony Langdon:

I believe he.net also offers ipv6 dyndns service without tunnel.

Correct. I use it for my domain.

Andrew

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Hello Tony,

On Wednesday February 20 2019 08:19, you wrote to me:

BTW, what do you use for DDNS so other nodes can find you? Who or
what does IPv6 DDNS? I haven't looked for years (no need!), but for a while there was nothing.

Answered in IPV6...


Cheers, Michiel

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