• Contact info request

    From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to All on Wed Jun 3 16:53:22 2026
    Hi all,

    Does anyone have contact info (email/phone) for Hector Santos, of Wildcat/Santronics fame?

    He's contacting me via Netmail from an invalid/unauthorized Fido
    address, so I can't reply to the netmail. Have scoured the internet the
    best I can but find no way to contact him. His website sucks and is
    full of dead ends.

    Please provide some info if you have it. Thanks.


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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Dan Clough on Wed Jun 3 21:02:39 2026
    On Wed, 3 Jun 2026 16:53:22 -0500
    "Dan Clough" (1:135/115) <[email protected]t> wrote:

    Hi all,

    Does anyone have contact info (email/phone) for Hector Santos, of Wildcat/Santronics fame?

    He's contacting me via Netmail from an invalid/unauthorized Fido
    address, so I can't reply to the netmail. Have scoured the internet
    the best I can but find no way to contact him. His website sucks and
    is full of dead ends.

    Please provide some info if you have it. Thanks.


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    Well that took a huge 2 seconds

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/hector-santos-8495a66


    [email protected] (https://web.synchro.net/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=dbridge&thread=16942)

    Or you could send him a good ol' snail mail

    815 N. Homestead Blvd., Suite 509
    HOMESTEAD, FL 33030

    or give the corporate number and see if you can get past his gate
    keeper.

    (305) 248-3204

    Regards
    LMGTFY.
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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Dan Clough on Wed Jun 3 20:07:24 2026
    On 03 Jun 2026, Dan Clough said the following...


    Hi all,

    Does anyone have contact info (email/phone) for Hector Santos, of Wildcat/Santronics fame?

    He's contacting me via Netmail from an invalid/unauthorized Fido
    address, so I can't reply to the netmail. Have scoured the internet the best I can but find no way to contact him. His website sucks and is
    full of dead ends.

    Please provide some info if you have it. Thanks.



    All his contact info is at Santronoics.com

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to IB Joe on Wed Jun 3 21:21:00 2026
    IB Joe wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Hi all,

    Does anyone have contact info (email/phone) for Hector Santos, of Wildcat/Santronics fame?

    He's contacting me via Netmail from an invalid/unauthorized Fido
    address, so I can't reply to the netmail. Have scoured the internet the best I can but find no way to contact him. His website sucks and is
    full of dead ends.

    Please provide some info if you have it. Thanks.

    All his contact info is at Santronoics.com

    Yup, and none of it works.



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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Nigel Reed on Wed Jun 3 21:21:00 2026
    Nigel Reed wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Does anyone have contact info (email/phone) for Hector Santos, of Wildcat/Santronics fame?

    He's contacting me via Netmail from an invalid/unauthorized Fido
    address, so I can't reply to the netmail. Have scoured the internet
    the best I can but find no way to contact him. His website sucks and
    is full of dead ends.

    Please provide some info if you have it. Thanks.

    Well that took a huge 2 seconds

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/hector-santos-8495a66

    Yeah. I don't have a LinkedIn account, and don't want one.

    [email protected] (https://web.synchro.net/?page=001-forum.ssjs&sub=dbridge&thread=16942)

    Seems like it would work, doesn't it? But it doesn't. You have to be a paying customer to get past the email filter.

    Or you could send him a good ol' snail mail

    815 N. Homestead Blvd., Suite 509
    HOMESTEAD, FL 33030

    Not too likely.

    or give the corporate number and see if you can get past his gate
    keeper.

    (305) 248-3204

    Done that, left voicemails, no return call.

    Regards
    LMGTFY.

    Good ideas, all of which I've already tried (except snail mail).
    Thanks for the snark, though.



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  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Dan Clough on Wed Jun 3 21:34:33 2026
    Re: Re: Contact info request
    By: Dan Clough to Nigel Reed on Wed Jun 03 2026 21:21:00

    Yeah. I don't have a LinkedIn account, and don't want one.

    So, make one to contact him and delete it when you're done.

    Seems like it would work, doesn't it? But it doesn't. You have to be a paying customer to get past the email filter.

    Seems odd.

    Or you could send him a good ol' snail mail
    Not too likely.

    Don't blame you, the stamp is more expensive than the envelope these days.

    (305) 248-3204
    Done that, left voicemails, no return call.

    Maybe you've not taken the hint then...

    Thanks for the snark, though.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Dan Clough on Thu Jun 4 12:32:51 2026
    Hi Dan,

    On 2026-06-03 16:53:22, you wrote to All:

    Does anyone have contact info (email/phone) for Hector Santos, of Wildcat/Santronics fame?

    He's contacting me via Netmail from an invalid/unauthorized Fido
    address, so I can't reply to the netmail.

    Maybe...

    Was it a crashmail or a routed netmail? If routed you can check the VIA lines to see who his fido uplink is, and check with the uplink what is possible.
    If crash, you can check your mailers log for the IP number the connection came from, check if there's a mailer on that IP address, and with a little tinckering in your configs, you can send a crashmail in return.

    I checked here: https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/?address=1%3A135%2F382

    The last host name for Hector was fido.winserver.com
    That one doesn't resolve anymore. But winserver.com does, and there is an active mailer on that address:

    # telnet winserver.com binkp | strings
    Trying 3.137.120.140...
    Connected to winserver.com.

    SYS Santronics Online
    ZYZ Hector Santos
    LOC Homestead, FL
    VER PxOnline/10.0b44 binkp/1.1
    99:1/1@xnet
    1:135/381@fidonet

    Since you are the current host for 1:135/0, it probably wasn't a routed netmail? ;-)

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Jun 4 14:03:56 2026
    Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Does anyone have contact info (email/phone) for Hector Santos, of Wildcat/Santronics fame?

    He's contacting me via Netmail from an invalid/unauthorized Fido
    address, so I can't reply to the netmail.

    Maybe...

    Was it a crashmail or a routed netmail? If routed you can check the VIA lines to see who his fido uplink is, and check with the uplink what is possible. If crash, you can check your mailers log for the IP number
    the connection came from, check if there's a mailer on that IP address, and with a little tinckering in your configs, you can send a crashmail
    in return.

    It was crashmail. He doesn't have a Fido uplink, and is trying to
    contact me to provide him with one (he lives in my NC area so that's
    fine). I guess I could put a fake entry in my local nodelist/config to
    make it possible to reply, using the info you provided just below... but
    that isn't normal and I'm not likely to do that.

    I checked here: https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/?address=1%3A135%2F382

    The last host name for Hector was fido.winserver.com
    That one doesn't resolve anymore. But winserver.com does, and there is
    an active mailer on that address:

    # telnet winserver.com binkp | strings
    Trying 3.137.120.140...
    Connected to winserver.com.

    SYS Santronics Online
    ZYZ Hector Santos
    LOC Homestead, FL
    VER PxOnline/10.0b44 binkp/1.1
    99:1/1@xnet
    1:135/381@fidonet

    Since you are the current host for 1:135/0, it probably wasn't a routed netmail? ;-)

    It was not. I have had someone else offer to forward my email address
    to him so he could reply to me that way, so we'll see if he does that.


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Dan Clough on Thu Jun 4 22:19:05 2026
    Hi Dan,

    On 2026-06-04 14:03:56, you wrote to me:

    Was it a crashmail or a routed netmail? If routed you can check the
    VIA lines to see who his fido uplink is, and check with the uplink
    what is possible. If crash, you can check your mailers log for the
    IP number the connection came from, check if there's a mailer on
    that IP address, and with a little tinckering in your configs, you
    can send a crashmail in return.

    It was crashmail. He doesn't have a Fido uplink, and is trying to
    contact me to provide him with one (he lives in my NC area so that's fine). I guess I could put a fake entry in my local nodelist/config to make it possible to reply, using the info you provided just below... but that isn't normal and I'm not likely to do that.

    Normal would be, him using 1:135/999, and you put your reply on hold for him to pick up.

    But if you really want to reach him, the effort is very little...

    I checked here:
    https://nodehist.fidonet.org.ua/?address=1%3A135%2F382

    The last host name for Hector was fido.winserver.com
    That one doesn't resolve anymore. But winserver.com does, and there is
    an active mailer on that address:

    # telnet winserver.com binkp | strings
    Trying 3.137.120.140...
    Connected to winserver.com.

    SYS Santronics Online
    ZYZ Hector Santos
    LOC Homestead, FL
    VER PxOnline/10.0b44 binkp/1.1
    99:1/1@xnet
    1:135/381@fidonet

    Since you are the current host for 1:135/0, it probably wasn't a routed
    netmail? ;-)

    It was not. I have had someone else offer to forward my email address
    to him so he could reply to me that way, so we'll see if he does that.

    If it works that would be easier indeed.


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Wilfred van Velzen on Thu Jun 4 21:11:28 2026
    Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Was it a crashmail or a routed netmail? If routed you can check the
    VIA lines to see who his fido uplink is, and check with the uplink
    what is possible. If crash, you can check your mailers log for the
    IP number the connection came from, check if there's a mailer on
    that IP address, and with a little tinckering in your configs, you
    can send a crashmail in return.

    It was crashmail. He doesn't have a Fido uplink, and is trying to
    contact me to provide him with one (he lives in my NC area so that's fine). I guess I could put a fake entry in my local nodelist/config to make it possible to reply, using the info you provided just below... but that isn't normal and I'm not likely to do that.

    Normal would be, him using 1:135/999, and you put your reply on hold
    for him to pick up.

    But if you really want to reach him, the effort is very little...

    Yes, I did do what you suggested and made a fake node config for that
    node number, and we have successfully exchanged netmails. Thanks.


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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Dan Clough on Fri Jun 5 12:23:16 2026
    Hi Dan,

    On 2026-06-04 21:11:28, you wrote to me:

    It was crashmail. He doesn't have a Fido uplink, and is trying to
    contact me to provide him with one (he lives in my NC area so that's
    fine). I guess I could put a fake entry in my local nodelist/config to
    make it possible to reply, using the info you provided just below... but
    that isn't normal and I'm not likely to do that.

    Normal would be, him using 1:135/999, and you put your reply on hold
    for him to pick up.

    But if you really want to reach him, the effort is very little...

    Yes, I did do what you suggested and made a fake node config for that
    node number, and we have successfully exchanged netmails. Thanks.

    Ok, great. So we can expect a new node in the net 135 segment of nodelist soon? ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Terry Roati@3:712/1321 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Jun 5 20:48:38 2026

    Like you I am used to new nodes using /999 but Policy 4 mentions /9999, do you know why the diffence?

    Terry


    On Jun 05, 2026 08:23pm, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough:

    Hi Dan,

    On 2026-06-04 21:11:28, you wrote to me:

    It was crashmail. He doesn't have a Fido uplink, and is trying to
    contact me to provide him with one (he lives in my NC area so that's
    fine). I guess I could put a fake entry in my local nodelist/config
    to
    make it possible to reply, using the info you provided just below...
    but
    that isn't normal and I'm not likely to do that.

    Normal would be, him using 1:135/999, and you put your reply on hold
    for him to pick up.

    But if you really want to reach him, the effort is very little...

    Yes, I did do what you suggested and made a fake node config for that
    node number, and we have successfully exchanged netmails. Thanks.

    Ok, great. So we can expect a new node in the net 135 segment of
    nodelist soon? ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Terry Roati on Fri Jun 5 13:13:53 2026
    Hi Terry,

    [Please don't "top" reply in fido]

    On 2026-06-05 20:48:38, you wrote to me:

    Normal would be, him using 1:135/999, and you put your reply on
    hold for him to pick up.

    Like you I am used to new nodes using /999 but Policy 4 mentions
    /9999, do you know why the diffence?

    No, and it was just a little mistake. I didn't check Policy. ;-)

    I think in practice both are used. It would be wise if both 999 and 9999 weren't used for real and administrative entries in the nodelist. But there are some of those entries. :-(


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Nigel Reed on Fri Jun 5 13:22:22 2026
    Or you could send him a good ol' snail mail
    Not too likely.

    Don't blame you, the stamp is more expensive than the envelope these
    days.

    In some places it doesn't even work anymore ... e.g. Denmark ... snailmail has been discontinued there a while ago.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Jun 5 13:26:01 2026
    Wilfred,

    1:135/381@fidonet

    Interesting.

    Thatone belonged to a 'Burt Gibbs' from Miami and was dropped from the nodelist Jan.12th 2001 .... 25 years ago...

    \%/@rd

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Dan Clough on Fri Jun 5 13:28:12 2026
    Dan,

    It was crashmail. He doesn't have a Fido uplink, and is trying to
    contact me to provide him with one (he lives in my NC area so that's
    fine). I guess I could put a fake entry in my local nodelist/config to make it possible to reply, using the info you provided just below... but that isn't normal and I'm not likely to do that.

    Sometimes it's a job.

    A few weeks ago I jumped through some remarkable hoops to add a single node in R40 Israel.

    \%/@rd

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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Terry Roati on Fri Jun 5 13:29:29 2026
    Like you I am used to new nodes using /999 but Policy 4 mentions /9999,
    do you know why the diffence?

    People not knowing what's in P4?

    \%/@rd

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Ward Dossche on Fri Jun 5 14:24:25 2026
    Hi Ward,

    On 2026-06-05 13:26:01, you wrote to me:

    1:135/381@fidonet

    Interesting.

    Thatone belonged to a 'Burt Gibbs' from Miami and was dropped from the nodelist Jan.12th 2001 .... 25 years ago...

    Hector_Santos used to have 1:135/382 and /383. Maybe he didn't remember correctly, or noticed in de nodelist /382 was already taken, and so was /383 from 2019 to 2025...


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Terry Roati on Fri Jun 5 09:01:58 2026

    On 2026 Jun 05 20:48:38, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:


    Like you I am used to new nodes using /999 but Policy 4 mentions /9999, do you know why the diffence?

    AFAIK, typos or ""bad memory"" and not verifying which one to use for some reason...
    that's why i have both listed in the nodesegs i manage...
    the real "fun" is when you get more than one using the same new node address at the same time...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Jun 5 08:17:41 2026
    Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    It was crashmail. He doesn't have a Fido uplink, and is trying to
    contact me to provide him with one (he lives in my NC area so that's
    fine). I guess I could put a fake entry in my local nodelist/config to
    make it possible to reply, using the info you provided just below... but
    that isn't normal and I'm not likely to do that.

    Normal would be, him using 1:135/999, and you put your reply on hold
    for him to pick up.

    But if you really want to reach him, the effort is very little...

    Yes, I did do what you suggested and made a fake node config for that
    node number, and we have successfully exchanged netmails. Thanks.

    Ok, great. So we can expect a new node in the net 135 segment of
    nodelist soon? ;-)

    Yes. Two, actually. :-)



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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to Ward Dossche on Fri Jun 5 08:17:41 2026
    Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    It was crashmail. He doesn't have a Fido uplink, and is trying to
    contact me to provide him with one (he lives in my NC area so that's fine). I guess I could put a fake entry in my local nodelist/config to make it possible to reply, using the info you provided just below... but that isn't normal and I'm not likely to do that.

    Sometimes it's a job.

    Yes, 'tis true.

    A few weeks ago I jumped through some remarkable hoops to add a single node in R40 Israel.

    Believe me, I'm quite familiar with the "jumping through hoops" process.



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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Dan Clough on Fri Jun 5 08:51:30 2026
    On 03 Jun 2026, Dan Clough said the following...


    Yup, and none of it works.


    [email protected]

    That's hie wife's email

    Santronics Software, Inc.
    815 N Homestead Blvd. Suite 509
    Homestead, FL 33030

    Orders/Sales: 305-248-3204

    I called and tested the number it works...

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Dan Clough on Fri Jun 5 18:00:02 2026
    Hi Dan,

    On 2026-06-05 08:17:41, you wrote to me:

    Yes, I did do what you suggested and made a fake node config for that
    node number, and we have successfully exchanged netmails. Thanks.

    Ok, great. So we can expect a new node in the net 135 segment of
    nodelist soon? ;-)

    Yes. Two, actually. :-)

    We'll stay tuned. ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Dan Clough@1:135/115 to IB Joe on Fri Jun 5 12:42:51 2026
    IB Joe wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    Yup, and none of it works.

    [email protected]

    That's hie wife's email

    Santronics Software, Inc.
    815 N Homestead Blvd. Suite 509
    Homestead, FL 33030

    Orders/Sales: 305-248-3204

    I called and tested the number it works...

    Yes, all is well now, we've established communications, thanks.



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  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to IB Joe on Sat Jun 6 00:09:32 2026
    [email protected]

    That's hie wife's email

    "Sales"? That's a weird name for a lady ...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Dan Clough on Fri Jun 5 16:51:04 2026
    On 05 Jun 2026, Dan Clough said the following...


    Yes, all is well now, we've established communications, thanks.


    AWESOME!!!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ward Dossche on Fri Jun 5 16:51:58 2026
    On 06 Jun 2026, Ward Dossche said the following...


    That's hie wife's email

    "Sales"? That's a weird name for a lady ...


    It's 2026... Theat could be Hector in a dress!!!

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Ward Dossche on Fri Jun 5 21:16:58 2026

    On 2026 Jun 06 00:09:32, you wrote to IB Joe:

    [email protected]

    That's hie wife's email

    "Sales"? That's a weird name for a lady ...

    LOL Andrea has always handled that account since forever... she used to participate in a few fido echos back in the day...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... I'll have two brains on drugs, scrambled with sausage, homefries, toast and co
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Atreyu@1:229/426 to Ib Joe on Fri Jun 5 21:38:50 2026
    On 05 Jun 26 16:51:58, Ib Joe said the following to Ward Dossche:

    "Sales"? That's a weird name for a lady ...

    It's 2026... Theat could be Hector in a dress!!!

    Oh dear God....

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Atreyu on Fri Jun 5 20:12:30 2026
    On 05 Jun 2026, Atreyu said the following...


    Oh dear God....

    Atreyu


    you got the picture right away didn't you.

    have a great weekend!!!

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... The caterpillar does all the work but the butterfly gets all the publicity

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)
  • From Nigel Reed@1:124/5016 to Ward Dossche on Fri Jun 5 22:32:24 2026
    Re: Re: Contact info request
    By: Ward Dossche to Nigel Reed on Fri Jun 05 2026 13:22:22

    Don't blame you, the stamp is more expensive than the envelope these days.
    In some places it doesn't even work anymore ... e.g. Denmark ... snailmail has been discontinued there a while ago.

    Interesting...gone of the days of birthday checks (cheques) then :)
    --- SBBSecho 3.37-Linux
    * Origin: End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com (1:124/5016)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to IB Joe on Sat Jun 6 10:44:55 2026
    That's hie wife's email

    "Sales"? That's a weird name for a lady ...

    It's 2026... Theat could be Hector in a dress!!!

    I've seen quite weird things in Walmart. The closer to the eastcoast, the more entertaining.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Nigel Reed on Sat Jun 6 10:59:40 2026
    Nigel,

    Interesting...gone of the days of birthday checks (cheques) then :)

    In a way, but cheques as a mode of payment were discontinued here like ... ehrrrr ... 2002. I looked it up but I haven't used any for at least 35 years.

    The system was too expensive and I don't understand how the US maintains something as expensive that long.

    My kids (25 through 42) have never used them, don't even know what they are.

    Cheques as a mode of payment ... I haven't used then since the late 80-ies.

    So when the expression is used "The cheque is in the mail" it sounds very much like fornicating in Central Europe (The Czech is in the male).

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)
  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Ward Dossche on Sat Jun 6 08:06:43 2026
    Ward Dossche wrote to Nigel Reed <=-

    Cheques as a mode of payment ... I haven't used then since the late 80-ies.

    Walgreens is a drug store chain in the US. Senior citizens rely heavily
    on pharmacies and are some of the last holdouts writing checks.

    The last time I went to pick up a prescription, I saw a notice that
    read that if you wrote a check, it was authorization for them to do an
    ACH debit in the amount on the check, and you wouldn't see a cancelled
    check in your bank statement. I suppose it's quicker, more foolproof
    and accomplishes the same effect - them getting paid.


    ... It is quite possible (after all)
    --- MultiMail/Win v0.52
    * Origin: http://realitycheckbbs.org | tomorrow's retro tech (1:218/700)
  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Ward Dossche on Sat Jun 6 12:25:32 2026
    On 06 Jun 2026, Ward Dossche said the following...


    I've seen quite weird things in Walmart. The closer to the eastcoast,
    the more entertaining.


    HAHAHA... My favorite YouTube channel... Weird Stuff at Walmart!!!

    IB Joe, Pronouns (FJB/LGB)
    AKA Joe Schweier
    SysOp of 4A 6F 65 73 42 42 53
    -=JoesBBS.com=-

    ... The dog ate my .REP packet

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A49 2023/04/30 (Windows/64)
    * Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:23 SSH:22 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)
  • From Ward Dossche@2:292/854 to Kurt Weiske on Sat Jun 6 23:31:01 2026
    Kurt,

    Cheques as a mode of payment ... I haven't used then since the late KW>WD> 80-ies.

    Walgreens is a drug store chain in the US. Senior citizens rely heavily
    on pharmacies and are some of the last holdouts writing checks.

    I know Walgreens, after having spent some 7 years in the USA.

    Besides, I "am" a senior citizen and haven't used a cheque since the late 80-ies. The only exception being the Boy Scouts of America refunding me my expenses via a cheque ... and then getting it cashed ... Oh dear, they even fingerprinted me ... hilarious.

    I never understood how that system in the USA did not collapse because the processing involved so much manual labour. It was so expensive.

    \%/@rd

    --- DB4 - 20230201
    * Origin: Many Glacier - Preserve / Protect / Conserve (2:292/854)
  • From Atreyu@1:229/426 to Ward Dossche on Sat Jun 6 19:40:51 2026
    On 06 Jun 26 23:31:01, Ward Dossche said the following to Kurt Weiske:

    Besides, I "am" a senior citizen and haven't used a cheque since the late 80-ies. The only exception being the Boy Scouts of America refunding me my expenses via a cheque ... and then getting it cashed ... Oh dear, they even fingerprinted me ... hilarious.

    The last time I dealt with cheques was 2009 writing post-dated ones for a landlord not technically inclined enough to accept email transfer or direct deposit. In the spirit of giving everyone a chance, she was trusted not to attempt to deposit them early.

    Six months later she did, and that was "the end" of that nonsense.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (1:229/426)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Dan Clough on Mon Jun 8 11:57:27 2026
    Hi Dan,

    On 2026-06-05 18:00:02, I wrote to you:

    Yes, I did do what you suggested and made a fake node config for
    that node number, and we have successfully exchanged netmails.
    Thanks.

    Ok, great. So we can expect a new node in the net 135 segment of
    nodelist soon? ;-)

    Yes. Two, actually. :-)

    We'll stay tuned. ;-)

    2026-06-08 11:56:10.475 Nodelist for Monday, June 8, 2026 -- Day number 159 parsed, 958 IP-nodes processed (0.013 sec)
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 Calling 1:135/381
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 bbs.winserver.com:24554
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 (3.137.120.140:24554)
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 SYS Santronics Online
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 ZYZ Hector Santos
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 LOC Homestead, FL
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 VER PxOnline/10.0b47 binkp/1.1
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 OPT CRAM-MD5-d714835862e5ea32aaced7e09ca0064d 2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 address: 99:1/1@xnet
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 address: 1:135/381@fidonet
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 3.137.120.140 - Ok.
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.263 Session with 1:135/381 done.
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 Calling 1:135/383
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 alpha.winserver.com:24554
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 (75.26.216.248:24554)
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 SYS SSI R&D
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 ZYZ wcBinkp CC
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 LOC Homestead, FL
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 VER PxOnline/10.0b47 binkp/1.1
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 OPT CRAM-MD5-e36d7a88b20473b54b326f0e27e6f950 2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 address: 99:1/999@xnet
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 address: 1:135/383
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 75.26.216.248 - Ok.
    2026-06-08 11:56:11.522 Session with 1:135/383 done.

    Looks good! ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.4.1-B20260520
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Jun 8 10:00:02 2026

    On 2026 Jun 08 11:57:26, you wrote to Dan Clough:

    We'll stay tuned. ;-)

    [...]

    Looks good! ;-)

    what happens when you send a file of some kind? sending a packet for this test would work... looking to see if you get "connection closed by foreign host" and binkd restoring an empty poll... maybe try sending a couple of packets, too...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... We ARE demons, we DO eat children & I haven't had supper!
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to mark lewis on Mon Jun 8 16:30:45 2026
    Hi mark,

    On 2026-06-08 10:00:02, you wrote to me:

    We'll stay tuned. ;-)

    [...]

    Looks good! ;-)

    what happens when you send a file of some kind? sending a packet for this test
    would work... looking to see if you get "connection closed by foreign host"
    and binkd restoring an empty poll... maybe try sending a couple of packets,
    too...

    Indeed, when sending a .pkt file (with a crash mail):

    + 08 Jun 16:26:52 [31002] call to 1:135/381@fidonet
    08 Jun 16:26:52 [31002] trying bbs.winserver.com [3.137.120.140]...
    08 Jun 16:26:52 [31002] connected
    + 08 Jun 16:26:52 [31002] outgoing session with bbs.winserver.com:24554 [3.137.120.140]
    - 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31002] SYS Santronics Online
    - 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31002] ZYZ Hector Santos
    - 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31002] LOC Homestead, FL
    - 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31002] VER PxOnline/10.0b47 binkp/1.1
    + 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31002] addr: 99:1/1@xnet (n/a or busy)
    + 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31002] addr: 1:135/381@fidonet
    + 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31002] sending /home/fido/outbound.001/a26d1260.pkt as a26d1260.pkt (365)
    + 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31002] sent: /home/fido/outbound.001/a26d1260.pkt (365, 365.00 CPS, 1:135/381@fidonet)
    ? 08 Jun 16:26:55 [31002] recv: connection closed by foreign host
    + 08 Jun 16:26:55 [31002] done (to 1:135/381@fidonet, failed, S/R: 1/0 (365/0 bytes))
    08 Jun 16:26:55 [31002] restoring poll with `f' flavour
    08 Jun 16:26:55 [31002] session closed, quitting...

    + 08 Jun 16:26:52 [31003] call to 1:135/383@fidonet
    08 Jun 16:26:52 [31003] trying alpha.winserver.com [75.26.216.248]...
    08 Jun 16:26:52 [31003] connected
    + 08 Jun 16:26:52 [31003] outgoing session with alpha.winserver.com:24554 [75.26.216.248]
    - 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31003] SYS SSI R&D
    - 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31003] ZYZ wcBinkp CC
    - 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31003] LOC Homestead, FL
    - 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31003] VER PxOnline/10.0b47 binkp/1.1
    + 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31003] addr: 99:1/999@xnet (n/a or busy)
    ? 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31003] Cannot find domain for zone 1, assuming 'fidonet'
    + 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31003] addr: 1:135/383@fidonet
    + 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31003] sending /home/fido/outbound.001/a26d1261.pkt as a26d1261.pkt (365)
    + 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31003] sent: /home/fido/outbound.001/a26d1261.pkt (365, 365.00 CPS, 1:135/383@fidonet)
    ? 08 Jun 16:26:56 [31003] recv: connection closed by foreign host
    + 08 Jun 16:26:56 [31003] done (to 1:135/383@fidonet, failed, S/R: 1/0 (365/0 bytes))
    08 Jun 16:26:56 [31003] restoring poll with `f' flavour
    08 Jun 16:26:56 [31003] session closed, quitting...


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.4.1-B20260520
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to mark lewis on Mon Jun 8 17:46:36 2026
    Hi mark.

    08 Jun 26 10:00:02, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    what happens when you send a file of some kind? sending a packet for
    this test would work... looking to see if you get "connection closed by foreign host" and binkd restoring an empty poll... maybe try sending a

    No problems sending netmail there...

    === Cut ===
    17:41 [4088] trying bbs.winserver.com [3.137.120.140]...
    17:41 [4088] connected
    + 17:41 [4088] outgoing session with bbs.winserver.com:24554 [3.137.120.140]
    - 17:41 [4088] SYS Santronics Online
    - 17:41 [4088] ZYZ Hector Santos
    - 17:41 [4088] LOC Homestead, FL
    - 17:41 [4088] VER PxOnline/10.0b48 binkp/1.1
    - 17:41 [4088] OPT CRAM-MD5-910865039bbeb0671ec15d76a5070904
    + 17:41 [4088] Remote requests MD mode
    + 17:41 [4088] addr: 99:1/1@xnet (n/a or busy)
    + 17:41 [4088] addr: 1:135/381@fidonet
    + 17:41 [4088] sending \bbs\bso\fido.001\0087017d.cut as 6a26d4df.pkt (330)
    + 17:41 [4088] sent: \bbs\bso\fido.001\0087017d.cut (330, 330.00 CPS, 1:135/381@fidonet)
    + 17:41 [4088] done (to 1:135/381@fidonet, OK, S/R: 1/0 (330/0 bytes))
    17:41 [4088] session closed, quitting...
    === Cut ===
    'Tommi

    --- FMail-W64 2.3.4.1-B20260521
    * Origin: FPoint One (2:221/1.1)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Jun 8 10:47:00 2026

    On 2026 Jun 08 16:30:44, you wrote to me:

    what happens when you send a file of some kind? sending a packet for
    this test would work... looking to see if you get "connection closed
    by foreign host" and binkd restoring an empty poll... maybe try
    sending a couple of packets, too...

    Indeed, when sending a .pkt file (with a crash mail):

    thank you for confirming... can you also say which mailer version you used for this test, please?

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... I've studied many a quaint & curious volume of forgotten lore.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Jun 8 17:57:26 2026
    Hi Wilfred.

    08 Jun 26 16:30, you wrote to mark lewis:

    - 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31002] VER PxOnline/10.0b47 binkp/1.1

    - 17:41 [4088] VER PxOnline/10.0b48 binkp/1.1

    There was an update. ;)

    'Tommi

    ---
    * Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/360)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to mark lewis on Mon Jun 8 17:07:03 2026
    Hi mark,

    On 2026-06-08 10:47:00, you wrote to me:

    what happens when you send a file of some kind? sending a packet for
    this test would work... looking to see if you get "connection closed
    by foreign host" and binkd restoring an empty poll... maybe try
    sending a couple of packets, too...

    Indeed, when sending a .pkt file (with a crash mail):

    thank you for confirming... can you also say which mailer version you used for
    this test, please?

    # ./binkd -v
    Binkd 1.1a-115 (Mar 26 2025 18:30:42/Linux)


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.4.1-B20260520
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jun 8 17:16:25 2026
    Hi Tommi,

    On 2026-06-08 17:57:26, you wrote to me:

    - 08 Jun 16:26:53 [31002] VER PxOnline/10.0b47 binkp/1.1

    - 17:41 [4088] VER PxOnline/10.0b48 binkp/1.1

    There was an update. ;)

    But it didn't help:

    + 08 Jun 17:08:21 [3315] call to 1:135/381@fidonet
    08 Jun 17:08:21 [3315] trying bbs.winserver.com [3.137.120.140]...
    08 Jun 17:08:21 [3315] connected
    + 08 Jun 17:08:21 [3315] outgoing session with bbs.winserver.com:24554 [3.137.120.140]
    - 08 Jun 17:08:22 [3315] SYS Santronics Online
    - 08 Jun 17:08:22 [3315] ZYZ Hector Santos
    - 08 Jun 17:08:22 [3315] LOC Homestead, FL
    - 08 Jun 17:08:22 [3315] VER PxOnline/10.0b48 binkp/1.1
    + 08 Jun 17:08:22 [3315] addr: 99:1/1@xnet (n/a or busy)
    + 08 Jun 17:08:22 [3315] addr: 1:135/381@fidonet
    + 08 Jun 17:08:22 [3315] sending /home/fido/outbound.001/a26dae40.pkt as a26dae40.pkt (365)
    + 08 Jun 17:08:22 [3315] sent: /home/fido/outbound.001/a26dae40.pkt (365, 365.00 CPS, 1:135/381@fidonet)
    ? 08 Jun 17:08:24 [3315] recv: connection closed by foreign host
    + 08 Jun 17:08:24 [3315] done (to 1:135/381@fidonet, failed, S/R: 1/0 (365/0 bytes))
    08 Jun 17:08:24 [3315] restoring poll with `f' flavour
    08 Jun 17:08:24 [3315] session closed, quitting...

    Btw: On your connect I see:

    - 17:41 [4088] VER PxOnline/10.0b48 binkp/1.1
    - 17:41 [4088] OPT CRAM-MD5-910865039bbeb0671ec15d76a5070904
    + 17:41 [4088] Remote requests MD mode

    I don't get that OPT CRAM... line?

    Which mailer do you use? On which OS? And if binkd, do you have special options for this node or default configured?


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.4.1-B20260520
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1.1 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Jun 8 18:42:17 2026
    Hi Wilfred.

    08 Jun 26 17:16:25, you wrote to me:

    Btw: On your connect I see:

    - 17:41 [4088] VER PxOnline/10.0b48 binkp/1.1
    - 17:41 [4088] OPT CRAM-MD5-910865039bbeb0671ec15d76a5070904
    + 17:41 [4088] Remote requests MD mode

    I don't get that OPT CRAM... line?

    Which mailer do you use? On which OS? And if binkd, do you have special options for this node or default configured?

    It seems that I'm using my own binkd version with these patches in this Win64 point of mine.

    https://fido.g0x.ru/gpl/fido/ftnsoft/mailer/binkd/patches/

    Binkd 1.1a-116 (May 15 2026 22:07:54/Win64)

    No special options.

    The 'normal' -115 acts like yours.

    'Tommi

    --- FMail-W64 2.3.4.1-B20260521
    * Origin: FPoint One (2:221/1.1)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Tommi Koivula on Mon Jun 8 18:34:12 2026
    Hi Tommi,

    On 2026-06-08 18:42:17, you wrote to me:

    It seems that I'm using my own binkd version with these patches in
    this Win64 point of mine.

    https://fido.g0x.ru/gpl/fido/ftnsoft/mailer/binkd/patches/

    Are they useful patches for everyone? -> Do a pull request for them! ;-)


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.4.1-B20260520
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Jun 9 09:08:20 2026

    On 2026 Jun 08 17:07:02, you wrote to me:

    what happens when you send a file of some kind? sending a packet for
    this test would work... looking to see if you get "connection closed
    by foreign host" and binkd restoring an empty poll... maybe try
    sending a couple of packets, too...

    Indeed, when sending a .pkt file (with a crash mail):

    thank you for confirming... can you also say which mailer version you
    used for this test, please?

    # ./binkd -v
    Binkd 1.1a-115 (Mar 26 2025 18:30:42/Linux)

    thanks... looks like i'm running the slightly older, self-compiled, 1.1a-113 version...

    having others able and willing to test sending to PXW systems running the new code is helpful... i have a link with one but having more tests with other systems is always helpful... unfortunately i don't have the time, at present, to do too much other than what i already have configured and in operation... as long as the traffic is not lost, i'm "ok" with it...

    )\/(ark

    "The soul of a small kitten in the body of a mighty dragon. Look on my majesty, ye mighty, and despair! Or bring me catnip. Your choice. Oooh, a shiny thing!"
    ... To be intoxicated is to feel sophisticated but not be able to say it.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to mark lewis on Tue Jun 9 15:27:28 2026
    Hi mark,

    On 2026-06-09 09:08:20, you wrote to me:

    # ./binkd -v
    Binkd 1.1a-115 (Mar 26 2025 18:30:42/Linux)

    thanks... looks like i'm running the slightly older, self-compiled, 1.1a-113
    version...

    Mine is self-compiled too.

    having others able and willing to test sending to PXW systems running
    the new code is helpful... i have a link with one but having more
    tests with other systems is always helpful... unfortunately i don't
    have the time, at present, to do too much other than what i already
    have configured and in operation... as long as the traffic is not
    lost, i'm "ok" with it...

    Traffic doesn't seem to get lost. But there is always 1 extra empty poll...


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.4.1-B20260520
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)