On 30 Jun 2019, Bj�rn Felten said the following...

Not to mention how we continue to burn fossil fuel as if there was no impact on our climate. Soon we'll be forced to grow gills like Kevin Costner in Waterworld.

I agree abou the fossil fuel and how it effecting our client.

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On 30 Jun 2019, Nick Andre said the following...

On 30 Jun 19 11:25:26, Bj*Rn Felten said the following to Nick Andre:

Many companies worldwide make millions, maybe even billions? From the production and processing of fossil fuel. Too much at stake for them to just jump ship and go with something cleaner.

Yea, but its really worth killing people maybe not in our life time but our grand children?

I for one, would welcome our supreme alien overlords...

I'm all in. Anything but our present day politicians...

We don't have any real good ones here in Canada, especially our PM. He
was really only elected based on his famous last name... and his hair.

Canadian media pokes fun at Trump, but believe me, we have our fair
share of problems. Whats the old saying... people who live in glass houses should not cast stones?

Question you agree what is doing to the wild life killing the animals?

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Hello Phil,

Not to mention how we continue to burn fossil fuel as if there was no
impact on our climate. Soon we'll be forced to grow gills like Kevin
Costner in Waterworld.

I agree abou the fossil fuel and how it effecting our client.

Keven Costner had gills and a little girl with a map.
So, unless you've got gills, or a map, and know how to
navigate yourself to the peak of Mt Everest ...

--Lee

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navigate yourself to the peak of Mt Everest ...

Actually Chimborazo in Ecuador would be a better choice.

It's the highest mountain above Earth's center, and since the sea level will follow the gravity, it means that this peak eventually will be the last to be submerged.



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Hello Bj�rn,

On Wednesday August 14 2019 15:06, you wrote to Lee Lofaso:

navigate yourself to the peak of Mt Everest ...

Actually Chimborazo in Ecuador would be a better choice.

It's the highest mountain above Earth's center, and since the sea
level will follow the gravity, it means that this peak eventually will
be the last to be submerged.

Not so. Sea level follows a surface of equal potential energy. The earth rotation comes into play and causes that surface to flatten at the poles.


Cheers, Michiel

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It's the highest mountain above Earth's center, and since the sea
level will follow the gravity, it means that this peak eventually will
be the last to be submerged.

MvdV> Not so. Sea level follows a surface of equal potential energy. The earth
MvdV> rotation comes into play and causes that surface to flatten at the poles.

Okay, okay, okay. So it's the centrifugal and not the gravitational force that causes it, but the end result is still the same.




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Hello Bj�rn,

On Wednesday August 14 2019 15:58, you wrote to me:

It's the highest mountain above Earth's center, and since the
sea level will follow the gravity, it means that this peak
eventually will be the last to be submerged.

MvdV>> Not so. Sea level follows a surface of equal potential energy.
MvdV>> The earth rotation comes into play and causes that surface to
MvdV>> flatten at the poles.

Okay, okay, okay. So it's the centrifugal and not the gravitational force that causes it, but the end result is still the same.

Not so. It will not be the highest mountain above earth's center, but the highest mountain above main sea level that will be submerged last. And that is Mt Everest.

Cheers, Michiel

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MvdV> Not so. It will not be the highest mountain above earth's center, but
MvdV> the highest mountain above main sea level that will be submerged last.
MvdV> And that is Mt Everest.

Now you are wrong. Mt. Everest is the highest point above the *present* sea level. It will no longer be if you raise it by 8840m.

Because of the centrifugal force that causes the Earth to be "flattened" as you call it -- more accurately become an ellipsoid -- the sea level will be raised equally much more, the closer to the equator you get.

How can you not understand such elementary physics...?



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Hello Bj�rn,

On Wednesday August 14 2019 17:16, you wrote to me:

Now you are wrong. Mt. Everest is the highest point above the
*present* sea level. It will no longer be if you raise it by 8840m.

Because of the centrifugal force that causes the Earth to be "flattened" as you call it -- more accurately become an ellipsoid --
the sea level will be raised equally much more, the closer to the
equator you get.

How can you not understand such elementary physics...?

GIGO also applies to physics. The GI in this case is "raise the sea level by 8840m".

If the planet turns into Sea World, "raising sea level by 8840m" is not how it will happen. Where would all that water come from? If all the ice in the world melts, we are talking 100 or 200 meters at most. So raising the sea level by 8840m is not going to happen.

Present another model where (almost) all of the earth is covered by water and we can talk again.


Cheers, Michiel

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On 08-15-19 00:00, Michiel Van Der Vlist <=-
spoke to Bj�rn Felten about The last mountain top abo <=-

MVDV> water come from? If all the ice in the world melts, we are
MVDV> talking 100 or 200 meters at most. So raising the sea level
MVDV> by 8840m is not going to happen.

I was wondering who would be the first to point that out.
Congratulations. OTOH, a raising of ocean levels by much less than 100
meters would be very serious. Much of popluation lives near sea coast.
A ten meter rise would have a very big impact on them. A 100 meter rise
in sea level would entirely wipe the state where I grew up, Florida

I don't know exactly what would happen where I live, but am pretty sure
that a 100 meter rise would put most of Maryland from me to the
Appalachian mountain range under water.

How would the Netherlands fare? I expect from what little I know that
the Holland states would vanish.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
(1:261/1466)



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Hello Dale,

On Thursday August 15 2019 01:56, you wrote to me:

Congratulations. OTOH, a raising of ocean levels by much less than
100 meters would be very serious. Much of popluation lives near sea coast. A ten meter rise would have a very big impact on them. A 100
meter rise in sea level would entirely wipe the state where I grew up, Florida

Worse case estimate: If all the ice on Antartica and Greenland melts, the average sea level rises by 67 meters.

Mind you: "average". It would not rise by the same amount everywhere on earth. Near Geenland and Antarctica, it may even fall a bit. That is because of gravitational attraction on the ocean water by the ice masses, sea level is presently higher thers that it would be without the ice. When the ice goes, that extra water flows away fom the region.

How would the Netherlands fare? I expect from what little I know that
the Holland states would vanish.

The Neterhelands is a bit better off than the 67 meters average. It is in the region near enough to Greenland for the gravitational effect to be in favour. Still, a 50 meter sea rise would be disastrous. All of The Netherlands would be flooded, except for a small part in the South East. Same for Belgium, Denmark the Northern part of Germany and the Baltic States.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Michiel,

Now you are wrong. Mt. Everest is the highest point above the
*present* sea level. It will no longer be if you raise it by 8840m.

Because of the centrifugal force that causes the Earth to be
"flattened" as you call it -- more accurately become an ellipsoid --
the sea level will be raised equally much more, the closer to the
equator you get.

How can you not understand such elementary physics...?

MvdV> GIGO also applies to physics. The GI in this case is "raise the sea level
MvdV> by 8840m".

MvdV> If the planet turns into Sea World, "raising sea level by 8840m" is not how
MvdV> it will happen. Where would all that water come from? If all the ice in the
MvdV> world melts, we are talking 100 or 200 meters at most. So raising the sea
MvdV> level by 8840m is not going to happen.

MvdV> Present another model where (almost) all of the earth is covered by water
MvdV> and we can talk again.

I can make that happen.
But it will not be science as you know it.

--Lee

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Hello Dale,

MVDV>> water come from? If all the ice in the world melts, we are
MVDV>> talking 100 or 200 meters at most. So raising the sea level
MVDV>> by 8840m is not going to happen.

I was wondering who would be the first to point that out.
Congratulations. OTOH, a raising of ocean levels by much less than 100 meters would be very serious. Much of popluation lives near sea coast.
A ten meter rise would have a very big impact on them. A 100 meter rise in sea level would entirely wipe the state where I grew up, Florida

I don't know exactly what would happen where I live, but am pretty sure that a 100 meter rise would put most of Maryland from me to the Appalachian mountain range under water.

How would the Netherlands fare? I expect from what little I know that
the Holland states would vanish.

New Orleans survived Katrina. But not the breeches in the levee
the next morning. Will New Orleans survive the rising waters of the
ocean? The city is already 9 feet below city level, with levees
surrounding the area.

It is not just New Orleans that would disappear, but also much of
the land surrounding the city. Most of South Louisiana would no
longer be land, but open water. I do not expect the city of New
Orleans to survive beyond the year 2050. So better to have your
fun now, while you still can.

--Lee

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On 16/08/2019 06:19, Lee Lofaso -> Dale Shipp wrote:

How would the Netherlands fare? I expect from what little I know that
the Holland states would vanish.

New Orleans survived Katrina.

Has all been restored and all of the residents return?

But not the breeches in the levee
the next morning. Will New Orleans survive the rising waters of the ocean? The city is already 9 feet below city level, with levees surrounding the area.

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How can you not understand such elementary physics...?

MvdV> GIGO also applies to physics. The GI in this case is "raise the sea
MvdV> level by 8840m".

Nice retraction...




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Hello David,

How would the Netherlands fare? I expect from what little I know that
the Holland states would vanish.

New Orleans survived Katrina.

Has all been restored and all of the residents return?

The pre-Katrina population was larger than what it is now.
Many of the former residents were unable to return, and have
permanently relocated to other places, mostly in Texas. The
lower ninth ward consisted mainly of renters, and most of
them had no option other than to live elsewhere. Many areas
were taken over by developers and new housing built for those
who could afford the pricy new digs. Old communities that
once existed are gone and will never return.

Remember, 80% of the city was flooded. The French Quarter
and other historic places, along with the CBD, remained mainly
intact with little damage. And it did take quite a while, and
lots of government dough, to rebuild what could be rebuilt.

The Louisiana Superdome had to undergo major renovation. The
state would have been unable to do the job without federal
help. But repairs were made, and the sports arena was saved.
The same can be said of other places.

Of course, all will be gone within the next 30 years. Even
if no other massive storm hits The City That Care Forgot.

But not the breeches in the levee
the next morning. Will New Orleans survive the rising waters of the
ocean? The city is already 9 feet below city level, with levees
surrounding the area.

I'm going to miss Louisiana when it is gone ...

--Lee

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Friday August 16 2019 05:08, you wrote to me:

How can you not understand such elementary physics...?

MvdV>> GIGO also applies to physics. The GI in this case is "raise the
MvdV>> sea level by 8840m".

Nice retraction...

It is not a retraction. I still say that if a Deus ex Magina gathers enough water to raise the sea level high enoug to cover all mountains, the mountain presently highest above sea level will go last.

But at my age, I find engaging in peeing contests no longer attractive.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello Everybody,

WWIII has begun -

https://youtu.be/qaVrt2n0HB4


Enjoy the show.

Judgment Day follows on 14 October 2019.

--Lee

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Hello Everybody,

"This war is coming here. China is on the way and positioning
themselves. What do you need face mask for? Bombs, dust, etc. If
the gov't came out and said we are about to go to war on our soil
people would panic run to stores and be complete chaos. BUT... if
we have you prepare for a virus and stock up on food and mask and
first aid, then your ready when it happens. We are bringing all
the troops home for a fight. They aren’t dying of sickness. They
need a reason to come back without alerting the public.”

~ Retired US Army Officer spilling the beans

thelibertyman.com


Is it true? This coronavirus thing is all a hoax? All a drill
for WWIII? No wonder those masks do not work for keeping us safe
from any virus ...

--Lee

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