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  • "I can't breathe"

    From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Fri Jun 12 12:26:43 2020
    In other words, when you have no viable response to the truth, you beg
    out of the conversation. There is nothing I have said that is not reasonable statement of facts, as opposed to what comes out of Trump's lips all too often.

    Dale, to an outside viewer looking in, there are some surprising facts that has appeared lately, that I do not understand.

    1. What are the US senators doing on their paid time? I watched them on their walk of shame going to a lunch, and all of them said more or less that they "haven't seen it" with regards to the shameful military attack on peaceful protesters on Lafayette Square.

    2. How and when could you end up naming ten big military bases after generals fighting and losing one of the bloodiest wars on USA in history? How can you still respect their (confederate) flag, and yet deny that there is a systematic racism in the USA?


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to BjöRn Felten on Sat Jun 13 01:17:00 2020
    On 06-12-20 12:26, Bj�rn Felten <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about "I can't breathe" <=-

    Dale, to an outside viewer looking in, there are some
    surprising facts that has appeared lately, that I do not
    understand.

    1. What are the US senators doing on their paid time? I watched
    them on their walk of shame going to a lunch, and all of them said
    more or less that they "haven't seen it" with regards to
    the shameful military attack on peaceful protesters on
    Lafayette Square.

    Those art the Republican senators who have lost their spine and are
    afraid of Trump.

    2. How and when could you end up naming ten big military
    bases after generals fighting and losing one of the
    bloodiest wars on USA in history? How can you still respect
    their (confederate) flag, and yet deny that there is a
    systematic racism in the USA?

    I only recently read about how that happened -- the Federal Government
    needed the Southern States to donate land for those forts. Naming them
    after Southern Generals helped to grease the deal. Until recently, I
    had not paid attention to who the forts were named after and what their
    history was. Even though I was in training classes at Fort Benning,
    Georgia -- it was just a name. Ditto for Fort Devons, Mass.

    And I do not respect the confederate battle flag nor condone its usage anywhere. Somehow, my position on that is stronger than the names.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Dale Shipp on Sat Jun 13 16:14:54 2020
    Hello Dale,

    Dale, to an outside viewer looking in, there are some
    surprising facts that has appeared lately, that I do not
    understand.

    1. What are the US senators doing on their paid time? I watched
    them on their walk of shame going to a lunch, and all of them said
    more or less that they "haven't seen it" with regards to
    the shameful military attack on peaceful protesters on
    Lafayette Square.

    Those art the Republican senators who have lost their spine and are
    afraid of Trump.

    How many of them who are up for election will be willing to fall on
    their sword for Trump this November?

    2. How and when could you end up naming ten big military
    bases after generals fighting and losing one of the
    bloodiest wars on USA in history? How can you still respect
    their (confederate) flag, and yet deny that there is a
    systematic racism in the USA?

    I only recently read about how that happened -- the Federal Government needed the Southern States to donate land for those forts. Naming them after Southern Generals helped to grease the deal. Until recently, I
    had not paid attention to who the forts were named after and what their history was. Even though I was in training classes at Fort Benning, Georgia -- it was just a name. Ditto for Fort Devons, Mass.

    Trump does not have any problem with those names remaining in place.

    And I do not respect the confederate battle flag nor condone its usage anywhere. Somehow, my position on that is stronger than the names.

    Like it or not, it is part of our history. Should the confederate
    flag be banned from museums, or historical reenactments? That would
    be a stretch. A real stretch. Those who forget history are doomed
    to repeat it. None of us should want to go through another divisive
    war that pitted us fighting ourselves. And yet look at what we are
    doing today.

    --Lee

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    Why not enjoy the go?

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