Yesterday this echo turned 30. Christopher Baker announced its creation in FidoNews Vol.13 No.28, 8 Jul 1996

Carlos

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Hi Carlos,

Yesterday this echo turned 30. Christopher Baker announced its creation in FidoNews Vol.13 No.28, 8 Jul 1996

https://www.fidonews.site/1996/v13n28/ ;-)

I wanted to announce it via FidoNews, but I must have done something wrong with my Netmail message to the current Editor. I'll do it again (and better) this week to make it official. ;-)

A reveure!!
Enric

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Hi Enric,

On 2026-07-08 07:21:16, you wrote to Carlos Navarro:

Yesterday this echo turned 30. Christopher Baker announced its creation
in FidoNews Vol.13 No.28, 8 Jul 1996

https://www.fidonews.site/1996/v13n28/ ;-)

Also announced in that issue is the SHARING echo. I never heard of it, and can't find any traces of it in any of the %LIST's of any of my links. ;-)


Bye, Wilfred.

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Eric,

I wanted to announce it via FidoNews, but I must have done something
wrong with my Netmail message to the current Editor. I'll do it again
(and better) this week to make it official. ;-)

I think the current editor suffers from a fiber-optic cut link ... From what I understand he manages to make outbound calls via a kind of back-up but cannot be reached direct.

"He'll be back"... 8-)

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Hi Wilfred,

Also announced in that issue is the SHARING echo. I never heard of it, and can't find any traces of it in any of the %LIST's of any of my links. ;-)

I guess this was a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away... :-P

I think that the original reason of Fidonews was acting as thermometer of our temperature, dynamize our chat talk and be notary/witness of our activity.

A reveure!!
Enric

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Hi Ward,

Eric,

It should be "Enric" (from the anglo Henry)... Eric was a famous viking... ;-)

I think the current editor suffers from a fiber-optic cut link ... From what I
understand he manages to make outbound calls via a kind of back-up but cannot be reached direct.

Thank you for the information. I can wait his feedback. ;-)

"He'll be back"... 8-)

I wonder what Cyberdyne Systems model is Bjorn... X-D


A reveure!!
Enric

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Carlos Navarro -> All skrev 2026-07-07 17:46:

Yesterday this echo turned 30. Christopher Baker announced its creation
in FidoNews Vol.13 No.28, 8 Jul 1996

Why would we celebrate the birth of an echo?

We already missed the 40th birthday of Fidonews itself.

"Volume 1, Number 1 1 Dec 84"

http://eljaco.se/FILES/FNEWS/FNEWS_84.ZIP



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Hi Bj�rn,

Why would we celebrate the birth of an echo?

No echo, no fun.

We already missed the 40th birthday of Fidonews itself.
"Volume 1, Number 1 1 Dec 84"

Can we celebrate the anniversary of the publication afterwards? ':-)


A reveure!!
Enric

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Enric Lleal Serra -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2026-07-10 07:52:

Can we celebrate the anniversary of the publication afterwards? ':-)

I'll try to remember that in December 2034.

But in six months, I've been the editor for 25 years.

I'll probably celebrate it with an article about all the hurdles put in front of me by entitled coordinators from Zone 1. Even including a failed hijacking attempt.

They were used to the average editor duration of nine months before me, and that those must be from their zone...


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Bj�rn Felten wrote to Enric Lleal Serra <=-

I'll try to remember that in December 2034.

Maybe you won't be around then.

But in six months, I've been the editor for 25 years.

Certainly a milestone.

I'll probably celebrate it with an article about all the hurdles put
in front of me by entitled coordinators from Zone 1. Even including a failed hijacking attempt.

They were used to the average editor duration of nine months before
me, and that those must be from their zone...

It must suck to be so bitter that all you can do is stew on how much you
hate the USA, and FidoNet Zone 1.

Is the above kind of garbage/drama what has made you that way? You just
can't get over it? It was *so* traumatic that you're scarred for life?

What a fuckin joke.

As for being the "editor"... LOL all that involves now is invoking a
script (or a "batch file" in your case) that spits out a duplicate copy
of the previous Snooze, with an updated "publication date" on it. That
must be so strenuous! Amazing that you've been able to keep that level
of hard work up for so many years!



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It must suck to be so bitter that all you can do is stew on how much you hate the USA, and FidoNet Zone 1.

Does "1-4" ring a bell?

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Hi Bj�rn,

Can we celebrate the anniversary of the publication afterwards? ':-)

I'll try to remember that in December 2034.

In 2034... I'll be... Mmmm... 60 years old... Not too bad... :-D

I expect to be here yet.

But in six months, I've been the editor for 25 years.

Since celebrating an anniversary early brings bad luck, I'll wait to congratulate you. ;-)

I'll probably celebrate it with an article about all the hurdles put in front of me by entitled coordinators from Zone 1. Even including a failed hijacking attempt.

I'm sure it would make an interesting article... but... Wouldn't you prefer to offer a summary of your 25 years, in parallelism with the evolution of the FidoNet network itself, highlighting your best memory and your worst moment as an Editor? Maybe you can't forget, but can you make peace acting as Editor and putting things in an objective and contextualized facts?

They were used to the average editor duration of nine months before me, and that those must be from their zone...

It could be an interesting starting point in your article: why 25 years instead of 9 months? Why these 25 years, and what have you faced in this time?


A reveure!!
Enric


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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

It must suck to be so bitter that all you can do is stew on how much you hate the USA, and FidoNet Zone 1.

Does "1-4" ring a bell?

Sure, I get that reference. Should likely have been a larger margin
than that, honestly.

Irrelevant to the topic at hand, of course.



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Enric Lleal Serra -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2026-07-10 16:17:

why 25 years instead of 9 months?

By the time I took over, it was a multi-hour, boring, tedious job. Very little actual editor work.

The only program used was MS-DOS only, it did not work properly on my Windows XP, so I basically had to debug and patch it, also removing the 7-bit character limit.

Posting the articles in this echo was probably the most time-consuming job. My predecessor, Frank Vest, already used a program Peter Karlsson (a Swedish sysop) wrote to automate it, but it too had to be updated to Euro standard by me, with the proper kludges.

In short, I'm amazed that so many of the previous editors lasted as long as nine months. Half of them even more -- that's the meaning of average -- but the other half less.

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Dan,

It must suck to be so bitter that all you can do is stew on how much DC>DC> you hate the USA, and FidoNet Zone 1.

Does "1-4" ring a bell?

Sure, I get that reference. Should likely have been a larger margin
than that, honestly.

The game itself is/was irrelevant. For some people it's a way of life, I don't understand that ...

But most likely it may have escaped people in the USA how the whole world turned against the country for that one particular game because of the intervention by the White House and the already known corruption, in whatever sense, of FIFA and its chair Infantino.

Irrelevant to the topic at hand, of course.

Good thing there are irrelevant topics left, at least something gets written at times.

Ro !!!

Enjoy the week-end,

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11 Jul 2026 09:06, you wrote to Dan Clough:

Does "1-4" ring a bell?

Sure, I get that reference. Should likely have been a larger
margin than that, honestly.

The game itself is/was irrelevant. For some people it's a way of life,
I don't understand that ...

I don't understand that either.

But... "2-1" }:-)

Carlos

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Hello Bj�rn,

On Saturday July 11 2026 05:06, you wrote to Enric Lleal Serra:

In short, I'm amazed that so many of the previous editors lasted as long as nine months. Half of them even more -- that's the meaning of average -- but the other half less.

Actually that is the median, not the average.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Dan,

As for being the "editor"... LOL all that involves now is invoking a
script (or a "batch file" in your case) that spits out a duplicate copy

You might have a point about the automation, but never underestimate the value of consistency.

As the FidoNews editor, his role isn't to be a content creator or to liven up the echoareas... it's simply to ensure that what arrives gets published.

We need to set the right expectations: keeping the lights on and staying reliable for 25 years is a merit in itself, even if it's not about putting on a show.


A reveure!!
Enric

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Hi Bj�rn,

why 25 years instead of 9 months?

By the time I took over, it was a multi-hour, boring, tedious job. Very

Thank you for the insight. That clarifies a lot.

It�s clear that if the job is automated and routine today, it's only because you put in the hard work to upgrade the tools, patch the code, and make the whole publishing and distribution process bulletproof.

Turning a tedious, multi-hour chore into an efficient pipeline is a massive contribution in itself. 25 years of keeping the wheels turning without a glitch is a testament to that reliability.

PS.- Have you documented about the whole process? (just in case, I don't mean to took over your duty).


A reveure!!
Enric

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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Does "1-4" ring a bell?

Sure, I get that reference. Should likely have been a larger margin
than that, honestly.

The game itself is/was irrelevant. For some people it's a way of life,
I don't understand that ...

I don't either, although I see it here too, for other sports. Probably college football is the closest thing to the fanaticism.

But most likely it may have escaped people in the USA how the whole
world turned against the country for that one particular game because
of the intervention by the White House and the already known
corruption, in whatever sense, of FIFA and its chair Infantino.

Sure, I was aware of that, and completely understand the thoughts. The president had no business getting involved, and was completely wrong to
do so, no question about it.

Irrelevant to the topic at hand, of course.

Good thing there are irrelevant topics left, at least something gets written at times.

I guess that's a valid point.

Enjoy the week-end,

I've got a full slate of yard-work waiting for me. :-(



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Enric Lleal Serra wrote to Dan Clough <=-

As for being the "editor"... LOL all that involves now is invoking a
script (or a "batch file" in your case) that spits out a duplicate copy

You might have a point about the automation, but never underestimate
the value of consistency.

As the FidoNews editor, his role isn't to be a content creator or to liven up the echoareas... it's simply to ensure that what arrives gets published.

A very good point, which I tend to forget.

We need to set the right expectations: keeping the lights on and
staying reliable for 25 years is a merit in itself, even if it's not about putting on a show.

You're right again. Hopefully for another 25+ years ahead. Thanks for
the "reset" you've provided me.

To Bjorn - keep up the good work.



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Carlos,

I don't understand that either.

But... "2-1" }:-)

And we had the only Real Madrid player ... 8-)

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Dan,

Enjoy the week-end,

I've got a full slate of yard-work waiting for me. :-(

It's a holiday here. We celebrate the 1302 defeat of the French king's cavalry by an army of peasants.

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Michiel van der Vlist -> Bj�rn Felten skrev 2026-07-11 11:52:
MvdV> Actually that is the median, not the average.

Semantics. Since the data is not skewed by unusually large or small data points, AFAIK, the difference is probably negligible. If you have an updated number, feel free to share it with us.


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But... "2-1" }:-)

+1 :D


'Tommi

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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

Enjoy the week-end,

I've got a full slate of yard-work waiting for me. :-(

It's a holiday here. We celebrate the 1302 defeat of the French king's cavalry by an army of peasants.

Cool. Sounds similar to what we did 479 years later with the Brits. :-)



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But... "2-1" }:-)

+1 :D

8-)

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It's a holiday here. We celebrate the 1302 defeat of the French
king's cavalry by an army of peasants.

Cool. Sounds similar to what we did 479 years later with the Brits. :-)

Interesting. Tell me more. Eager to learn.

Was there a lot of blood or was it like Fidonet where one side tries to bore the other to death? 8-)

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On 11 Jul 26 07:48:32, Dan Clough said the following to Enric Lleal Serra:

To Bjorn - keep up the good work.

If you peel off the mask and reveal yourself to have Dutch ancestry I will be EXTREMELY disappointed.

Nick

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Re: Re: 30 years
By: Atreyu to Dan Clough on Sat Jul 11 2026 09:41 pm

On 11 Jul 26 07:48:32, Dan Clough said the following to Enric Lleal Serra:

To Bjorn - keep up the good work.

If you peel off the mask and reveal yourself to have Dutch ancestry I will be EXTREMELY disappointed.

Hahahahaha, do not worry! LOL

I'm of Scottish/English descent. I do hope to visit over there in the next year or so, but not for socializing with FidoNetters. ;-)
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Ward Dossche wrote to Dan Clough <=-

It's a holiday here. We celebrate the 1302 defeat of the French
king's cavalry by an army of peasants.

Cool. Sounds similar to what we did 479 years later with the Brits. :-)

Interesting. Tell me more. Eager to learn.

Was there a lot of blood or was it like Fidonet where one side tries to bore the other to death? 8-)

Oh, there was plenty of blood.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

Are you saying the Zone Wars were boring? ;-)



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On 11 Jul 26 20:54:50, Dan Clough said the following to Atreyu:

I'm of Scottish/English descent. I do hope to visit over there in the next year or so, but not for socializing with FidoNetters. ;-)

Stay away from Belgium, I heard that over there, a man can marry his right hand... but when the left hand finds out, the divorce is costly.

Nick

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08 Jul 2026 07:21, you wrote to me:

Yesterday this echo turned 30. Christopher Baker announced its
creation in FidoNews Vol.13 No.28, 8 Jul 1996

https://www.fidonews.site/1996/v13n28/ ;-)

I wanted to announce it via FidoNews, but I must have done something
wrong with my Netmail message to the current Editor. I'll do it again
(and better) this week to make it official. ;-)

Great work Enric! At last a (very) convenient way to browse (and search) the FidoNews archives.

BTW, your announcement hasn't been published yet...

Back to the OP: actually, this echo is young compared to many others. Interestingly, the same editor suggested its creation 5 years earlier, in 1991:

https://www.fidonews.site/1991/v08n30/ (page 20)

Carlos

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Hi Dan,

Thanks for the "reset" you've provided me.

There's usually a middle ground of understanding between two opposing viewpoints, where no one loses and everyone wins.

Thank you for doing your part. ;-)


A reveure!!
Enric

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