On 09 Aug 2019, mark lewis said the following...

On 2019 Aug 07 07:15:20, you wrote to me:

success that Donald Trump has provided through his leadership,

what success? the success he's had a taking $$$ from US citizens

and

lining his own pockets with? the $$$ he's spending on his golfing

at

his own courses that he bitched about obama doing?

Yes he does play golf, but that's the thing about this President.
You can have your cake and eat it too when you get things done.

the problem is that he's using taxpayer $$$ to pay for those trips AND he's making profit off those same $$$... *THAT* is what is wrong...

How is he making money when he just so happens to own the courses that he is playing on?

This is the first President in a very long time not collecting any money for being President, he does not need the money, and what does that say about his success.

With Obama he did also golf, but did not get much done and he was in office for 8 years.

obama also didn't profit monetarily from those trips... then there's also this...

The taxpayers still paid for his vacations in Hawaii.

All great points here, Thanks Mark.

President Obama should have gone to Louisiana days ago, instead of golfing. Too little, too late!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 23, 2016

While our wonderful president was out playing golf all day, the TSA
is falling apart, just like our government! Airports a total disaster!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 21, 2016

"@YankeeRunnerLV:Can U trick Obama into appearing on @ApprenticeNBC
by telling him Golf is involved so you can do Country a favor& FIRE HIM!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 6, 2015

"@mooovin_on: No Bush, no Clinton, no RINOs, no golfing, no more handouts!! It's got to be @realDonaldTrump. Time for #Trump2016"
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 24, 2014

Obama has admitted that he spends his mornings watching @ESPN. Then
he plays golf, fundraises & grants amnesty to illegals.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 16, 2014

President Obama has a major meeting on the N.Y.C. Ebola outbreak,
with people flying in from all over the country, but decided to play
golf! -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 24, 2014

"@nikkio: DonaldTrump: Only way to get Obama to do right for our Marine would be for every country club across USA to deny him golf access
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 21, 2014

We pay for Obama's travel so he can fundraise millions so Democrats can run on lies. Then we pay for his golf.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 14, 2014

Can you believe that,with all of the problems and difficulties
facing the U.S., President Obama spent the day playing golf.Worse than Carter -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 14, 2014

Can you believe we still have not gotten our Marine out of Mexico.
He sits in prison while our PRESIDENT plays golf and makes bad decisions!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 26, 2014

"@Kalozap: Obama's mind, IsIs, ebola, etc.... and then thinking, boy
I wish I was on the golf coarse. What should I wear on the Links"
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 11, 2014

If Obama resigns from office NOW, thereby doing a great service to
the country--I will give him free lifetime golf at any one of my courses!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 10, 2014

"@TheBigJamesG: What kind of president doesn't get playing golf
after a cruel beheading isn't the thing to do? Detached from reality he is" -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 9, 2014

"@__________IAN: "No one respects golf more than me, but there is a time and place for everything"- Mr.Trump hitting the nail on the head!"
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 8, 2014

"@BackOnTrackUSA: @realDonaldTrump While Obama vacations,golfs, attends parties & jazz concerts, ISIS is chopping heads off of journalists." -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 20, 2014

"@jeff_smith7: @realDonaldTrump Maybe Perry can put in a 9 hole golf course on the banks of the Rio Grande to lure Obama to see the border?"
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 11, 2014

President Obama played golf yesterday???
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 18, 2013

"@gretawire: PresObama is not busy talking to Congress about
Syria..he is playing golf ...go figure"
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 8, 2013

"@pellscuse11: @realDonaldTrump Who plays more golf, yourself or the President? My money is on POTUS." You win!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 21, 2013

My @foxandfriends interview discussing Pres. Obama playing golf w/@TigerWoods, US Airways-American merger & oil http://t.co/C868hkJf
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 19, 2013

Obama should play golf with Republicans & opponents rather than his small group of friends. That way maybe the terrible gridlock would end.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 19, 2012

Too busy playing golf? @BarackObama sends form letters with an electronic signature to the parents of fallen SEALs http://t.co/ELKcqTyr
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 30, 2012

23rd Jul 2012 from Twitlonger: Who else could take 16 vacations,
play over 100 rounds of golf and hold over 300 fundraisers while serving as POTUS besides @BarackObama--& not one jobs meeting.

I don't mind that @BarackObama plays a lot of golf. I just wish he used it productively to make deals with Congress!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 18, 2012

I play golf to relax. My company is in great shape. @BarackObama
plays golf to escape work while America goes down the drain.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 30, 2011

Yesterday @BarackObama actually spent a full day in Washington. He didn't campaign, fund raise or play golf. Shocking.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 22, 2011

@BarackObama played golf yesterday. Now he heads to a 10 day
vacation in Martha's Vineyard. Nice work ethic.
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 15, 2011

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All great points proving that Obama was a lousy President, as shown by
previous tweets by Donald Trump.

President Trump stands defiant and is not going to allow this nation played like in years gone by.

Fact: The Country is far better off now under this President who also plays golf then they were under the previous one who also played golf.

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On 2019 Aug 10 01:00:04, you wrote to me:

You have managed to amass quite a list of quotes here.

someone else did the work... i only copied part of the list to the post to show trump's hipocrisy... i was remiss in providing attribution and disclaimer :?

The one that I do not see is when he said at a campaign rally before
he was elected was that [paraphrased] Obama plays golf too much, when
I am president I won't be playing golf at all --- I'll be working.

yes, i remember that one and others of similar vein... i've not found a good source from which to easily copy them when needed...

)\/(ark

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On 2019 Aug 11 11:18:50, you wrote to me:

Yes he does play golf, but that's the thing about this President.
You can have your cake and eat it too when you get things done.

the problem is that he's using taxpayer $$$ to pay for those trips
AND he's making profit off those same $$$... *THAT* is what is
wrong...

How is he making money when he just so happens to own the courses that
he is playing on?

you just answered your own question...

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All great points proving that Obama was a lousy President, as shown by previous tweets by Donald Trump.

no, they don't prove a thing other than what some imbecile thinks/thought about obama... they are, however, excellent points proving what a hipocrite trump is...

)\/(ark

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Hello Wilfred,

On Saturday August 10 2019 18:53, you wrote to me:

Gold was valuable in the dark ages...

MvdV>> In the dark ages only those who had the means to protect it
MvdV>> with right of might had gold. If the dark ages return and I had
MvdV>> gold, I would not have it very long...

That was true for everything that was used to store value.

Indeed. So when we are back in de dark ages, I will not be able to hold on to my gold, diamonds, cowry shells, darseks or bars of latinum. Or whatever is considered of value by then.

Other than that, average life time in the dark ages was <40 years. I am way past that. I simply have no chance.

How likely is a full collapse? If you think it isn't very
likely, gold is a usefull investment.

MvdV>> Very few people that invest in gold actually have the metal in
MvdV>> their posession. Most of it is numbers in a "gold account" in a
MvdV>> bank. Susceptible to the same vulnerabilities as any other bank
MvdV>> account.

I don't know how that is with regular banks where you can have a gold account, but that's not true for firms that specialise in precious
metal accounts. They store and insure the gold that you are the owner
of, and you pay them a fee to do so. When they go bankrupt it's still
your gold and not part of the assets of that bank that needs to be
devided between the creditors of that bank.

That may be what they say in the brochure, but a commmon saying among lawyers is: "posession is 90% of ownership". So when when things go wrong and push come to shove, it still remains to be seen how it will work out. AFAIK, there is no precedent yet...

MvdV>> If weapons were as easy to get as in the US, I still would not
MvdV>> have a chance. There is always someone faster...

It isn't all about being faster than the other. It's about skill to
use the weapons, and being able seem like a threat to the other, so
they go find an easier target. That isn't all about age...

Not having any gold, diamonds, cowry shells or bars of latinum, will make me a less atractive target. In my case, I believe that to be a better survival strategy...


Cheers, Michiel

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Hi Michiel,

On 2019-08-13 12:28:35, you wrote to me:

I don't know how that is with regular banks where you can have a gold
account, but that's not true for firms that specialise in precious
metal accounts. They store and insure the gold that you are the owner
of, and you pay them a fee to do so. When they go bankrupt it's still
your gold and not part of the assets of that bank that needs to be
devided between the creditors of that bank.

MvdV> That may be what they say in the brochure, but a commmon saying among
MvdV> lawyers is: "posession is 90% of ownership". So when when things go wrong
MvdV> and push come to shove, it still remains to be seen how it will work out.
MvdV> AFAIK, there is no precedent yet...

That's true. But with money in the bank you are sure to lose it...

It isn't all about being faster than the other. It's about skill to
use the weapons, and being able seem like a threat to the other, so
they go find an easier target. That isn't all about age...

MvdV> Not having any gold, diamonds, cowry shells or bars of latinum, will make
MvdV> me a less atractive target. In my case, I believe that to be a better
MvdV> survival strategy...

To be able to survive at all, you will at least need a more or less stable food supply. Which is valuable in those circumstances. And you will be the easier target. If you are lucky they will only tax you for a percentage, in return for your live and maybe protection... ;)

Bye, Wilfred.


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MvdV> Not having any gold, diamonds, cowry shells or bars of latinum, will
MvdV> make me a less atractive target.

Why, if it's worthless according to you?



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Hello Bj�rn,

On Tuesday August 13 2019 14:06, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Not having any gold, diamonds, cowry shells or bars of latinum,
MvdV>> will make me a less atractive target.

Why, if it's worthless according to you?

Because there are others who do not care if I consider it worthless and want it anyway.


Cheers, Michiel

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Hello mark,

Yes he does play golf, but that's the thing about this President.
You can have your cake and eat it too when you get things done.

the problem is that he's using taxpayer $$$ to pay for those trips
AND he's making profit off those same $$$... *THAT* is what is
wrong...

How is he making money when he just so happens to own the courses that
he is playing on?

you just answered your own question...

Jimmy Carter had to sell his peanut farm (he owned the business).
Donald Trump chose to hold on to all (or a good many) of his own properties/business enterprises. That puts him in violation of
the US Constitution, which he swore an oath to uphold and defend.

--Lee

--
Laying Pipe Since '88

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Hello Wilfred,

On Tuesday August 13 2019 13:27, you wrote to me:

MvdV>> Not having any gold, diamonds, cowry shells or bars of latinum,
MvdV>> will make me a less atractive target. In my case, I believe
MvdV>> that to be a better survival strategy...

To be able to survive at all, you will at least need a more or less
stable food supply. Which is valuable in those circumstances. And you
will be the easier target. If you are lucky they will only tax you for
a percentage, in return for your live and maybe protection... ;)

My best chance will probably be to offer my services to the local warlord....

Cheers, Michiel

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