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  • Re: Matthew Green on Telegrams Encryption

    From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Tue Sep 17 09:03:59 2024
    Hi August,

    On 2024-09-16 21:18:00, you wrote to me:

    I don't think it has been unknown to Telegram users that Secret
    Chat is the ONLY true E2EE channel.

    Probably only to users who care (a bit) about this, and investigated it.

    And.. starting a Secret chat isn't "buried" so deep as has been
    suggested. All that is required is to [1] tap on the user's
    icon, [2] clink on the 3-dots, and [3] "Start Secret Chat" is
    right there.

    After 2 I don't see 3 in the menu options that are presented to me!?


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.4-B20240523
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From August Abolins@1:396/45.29 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Sep 17 08:07:00 2024
    Hello Wilfred!

    After 2 I don't see 3 in the menu options that are presented to me!?

    AH.. my guess is that you are trying to do that in the DT gui.
    But secret chats are a mobile thing .: the feature is only
    available from the phone app.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.58
    * Origin: (1:396/45.29)
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to August Abolins on Tue Sep 17 14:21:36 2024
    Hi August,

    On 2024-09-17 08:07:00, you wrote to me:

    After 2 I don't see 3 in the menu options that are presented to me!?

    AH.. my guess is that you are trying to do that in the DT gui.
    But secret chats are a mobile thing .: the feature is only
    available from the phone app.

    Indeed... I don't think that was mentioned in the articles?
    Btw: My goto device is always my desktop for Telegram, it's much more convenient to use a real keyboard to type in messages! ;-)

    I've sent you an invite for a secret chat.


    Bye, Wilfred.

    --- FMail-lnx64 2.3.2.4-B20240523
    * Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)
  • From Aug@2:460/256 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Sep 17 15:36:22 2024
    Hi Wilfred...

    Hi August,
    On 2024-09-17 08:07:00, you wrote to me:
    AH.. my guess is that you are trying to do that in the DT gui.
    But secret chats are a mobile thing .: the feature is only
    available from the phone app.
    Indeed... I don't think that was mentioned in the articles?
    Btw: My goto device is always my desktop for Telegram, it's much more convenient to use a real keyboard to type in messages! ;-)
    I've sent you an invite for a secret chat.
    Bye, Wilfred.

    Well.. in the section entitled "Secret Chats / Q: How are secret chats different?" of the FAQ, it states:

    "All secret chats in Telegram are device-specific and are not part of the Telegram cloud. This means you can only access messages in a secret chat from their device of origin. They are safe for as long as your device is safe in your pocket."

    So.. "in your pocket" would exclude a DT, I would presume. ?

    --
    /|ug
    https://t.me/aabolins

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Wilfred van Velzen on Tue Sep 17 08:49:00 2024
    Hello Wilfred van Velzen!

    AH.. my guess is that you are trying to do that in the DT gui.

    [..]

    Btw: My goto device is always my desktop for
    Telegram, it's much more convenient to use a real
    keyboard to type in messages! ;-)

    Same here. It is interesting though that a pretty large
    demographic is probably acclimated with their smartphones and
    don't know anything else.

    I've considered a BT keyboard for my phone incase I may need to
    rely on the phone for more texting/email/research ..etc. But
    I've held back. It would end up as a yet-another-device that
    is easily misplaced and that needs battery maintenance.

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.58
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