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  • Interesting. What triggered that? Perhaps a warning is best sent to

    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue Feb 23 09:16:00 2021
    Hello Stas!

    In that case, since Telegram announces when someone has
    Joined (and everyone sees that), why not send a private
    "warning" message to that person?

    I repeat again. The bot will not be able to privately, and
    sending manually every time is too difficult.

    Noted. Apparently there are aspects with the API that Telegram
    offers you than I realize.

    I just thought that if Telegram generates the USERID #, then
    your bot can easily construct a "reply" to the holder of that
    USERID.

    I think you mentioned that you hoped to built an auto-welcome
    PVT message to the user. I guess that is harder to do than
    imagined.

    In anycase, I suppose most people would rather appreciate the
    option to lurk silently in the background. If they suddenly got
    automated messages indicating that their "silent" presence is
    detected, then that could tick them off.

    I suppose a better thing might be is to have a "channel" for the fidonet.telegram project and broadcast some member stats and
    activity data in there.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Tue Feb 23 17:40:40 2021
    Hi, August!

    23 䥢 21 09:16, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    I just thought that if Telegram generates the USERID #, then
    your bot can easily construct a "reply" to the holder of that
    USERID.

    This was the case in the first versions. Then the messages were stored in separate files and an attempt was made to send them once a minute. Sent items were deleted. Now it's a little different and I'm thinking about how to store unsent messages.

    In anycase, I suppose most people would rather appreciate the
    option to lurk silently in the background. If they suddenly got
    automated messages indicating that their "silent" presence is
    detected, then that could tick them off.

    A message with an offer to register now appears only after the user sends a message.

    I suppose a better thing might be is to have a "channel" for the fidonet.telegram project and broadcast some member stats and
    activity data in there.

    I'm not sure if I understand correctly what you are suggesting.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Feb 24 23:10:00 2021
    Hello Stas!

    ** On Tuesday 23.02.21 - 17:40, you wrote to me:

    I suppose a better thing might be is to have a "channel"
    for the fidonet.telegram project and broadcast some member
    stats and activity data in there.

    I'm not sure if I understand correctly what you are
    suggesting.

    As you may know, in addition to regular Groups, Telegram has
    something they call Channels. My understanding is that Channels
    operate like broadcasters or a news annoucement medium.

    I *did* have a channel set up near the beginning of this
    project. I called it "Fidonet START HERE". The idea was to have
    a READ ONLY area and use it to broadcast updates to new echos
    being added and about the general progress and updates of the
    f2t bot.

    But I lost the channel when I lost access to Telegram due to an
    annoying glitch. The folks at Telegram recovered my account,
    and most of the groups/echos that I was admin of, but the
    Fidonet START HERE channel was lost.

    Anyway.. a channel to broadcast updates/changes/news to the
    Fidonet-Telegram project for folks residing on the Telegram side
    could be useful.

    But, since we have the FIDONET.TELEGRAM echo now, that might be
    good enough.


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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Sun Feb 28 12:28:44 2021
    Hi, August!

    24 䥢 21 23:10, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    I suppose a better thing might be is to have a "channel"
    for the fidonet.telegram project and broadcast some member
    stats and activity data in there.

    I'm not sure if I understand correctly what you are
    suggesting.

    In general, they are not very different from the groups technically.

    Anyway.. a channel to broadcast updates/changes/news to the Fidonet-Telegram project for folks residing on the Telegram side
    could be useful.

    But, since we have the FIDONET.TELEGRAM echo now, that might be
    good enough.

    Also, it seems to me that it is even better because the new member immediately falls into Fido.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed Mar 3 22:34:00 2021
    Hello Stas!

    ** On Sunday 28.02.21 - 12:28, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to August Abolins:

    In general, they are not very different from the groups
    technically.

    I was thinking of one to use primarily as a public (searchable
    .vs. private) so that people looking for "fidonet" might find
    info on your doorway into the fidonet echos.

    As I said, I started one for that purpose before I had that
    Telegram hiccup just before December.

    But, since we have the FIDONET.TELEGRAM echo now, that
    might be good enough.

    Also, it seems to me that it is even better because the new
    member immediately falls into Fido.

    Yes.. one click on an invite link, boom they're in.

    But, as it sits now, finding the entry point requires people to
    be already in fidonet. It has worked well from that vantage
    point.

    If only to monitor echomail activity, the Telegram app is really
    cool. I can "watch" the activity from any vantage point: phone,
    DT, laptop ..and in any location at any time.

    Ofcourse, the key for that is your tg_BBS and the fido2telebot
    must be operational.

    Recently, I've hooked up to a fidonet-related Facebook group.
    The reading experience is different being [1] someone writes a
    Post, and [2] the "replies" are Comments. The Comments don't
    seem to be searchable, only the original posts. :(

    Whereas.. on Telegram, past posts *and* replies can be found.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to August Abolins on Thu Mar 4 18:05:12 2021
    Hi, August!

    03 ��� 21 22:34, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

    I was thinking of one to use primarily as a public (searchable
    .vs. private) so that people looking for "fidonet" might find
    info on your doorway into the fidonet echos.

    As I said, I started one for that purpose before I had that
    Telegram hiccup just before December.

    I also think that an open group or channel is very useful.

    Have nice nights.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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