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    From August Abolins@2:460/58 to All on Tue Jan 12 16:44:44 2021

    The more and more I use the desktop (DT) Telegram app as part of the Telegram-Fidonet project, I see that all we need next is a dedicated version of the app that would simply turn the messaging window horizontal. That would help eliminate the seemingly restricted size of the current messaging window.

    The areas list and group info sections could be accessible via hamburger menu that sits quietly in a corner or something.

    The app could also feature addons for taglines and other features found in OLRs and for the echomail experience in general.

    Traditional inter-message quoting could still be a challenge since the inherent way Telegram operates with replies is to bottom quote. But I notice that many people replying directly from their BBSes (Synchronet/Mystic systems) don't even bother cleaning up the original quoting anyway.

    The main thing would be a horizontal orientation for this UI.

    --- tg BBS v0.6.3
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to All on Tue Jan 12 16:49:28 2021

    Ooops..

    "the inherent way Telegram operates with replies is to bottom quote. "

    I meant to say "top quote", implying that the entire quoted part is at the top, and the new content is at the bottom.

    --- tg BBS v0.6.3
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From Charles Pierson@1:106/127 to August Abolins on Tue Jan 12 07:59:20 2021
    On 12 Jan 2021, August Abolins said the following...
    The more and more I use the desktop (DT) Telegram app as part of the Telegram-Fidonet project, I see that all we need next is a dedicated version of the app that would simply turn the messaging window
    horizontal. That would help eliminate the seemingly restricted size of
    the current messaging window.

    There are custom Telegram apps out there. Perhaps ine does that already.


    The app could also feature addons for taglines and other features found
    in OLRs and for the echomail experience in general.

    Maybe some of those custom bots could do that?

    Traditional inter-message quoting could still be a challenge since the inherent way Telegram operates with replies is to bottom quote. But I notice that many people replying directly from their BBSes (Synchronet/Mystic systems) don't even bother cleaning up the original quoting anyway.


    I agree the quoting system leaves something to be desired. Although I'm not sure what you mean about BBS Users not cleaning up their quoting. With
    Mystic, at least, I have to select the lines that I'm quoting as I go.

    Now with HotdogEd, quotes could get messy...

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A46 2020/08/26 (Raspberry Pi/32)
    * Origin: theoasisbbs.ddns.net:1357 (1:106/127)
  • From August Abolins@2:460/58 to All on Tue Jan 12 17:06:29 2021

    I haven't seen how the Telegram operates on a 16x9 smartphone screen (my Blackberry just has a 2"x2" square screen, and the app doesn't turn 90deg if I tried). But can anyone using it on a smartphone chime in and tell me if the app can re-orientate 90deg?

    On my Blackberry, the areas list and group info sections are tucked away in their own corners and viewable one at a time.

    On the desktop version, the presentation is in three columns with the areas list in the left column, the group info in the right-most column and the messaging window squeezed in the middle.

    If we could only have the messaging window full width, or just a bit wider, then the sometimes full 79char width that some echos employ would look a lot better.

    --- tg BBS v0.6.3
    * Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Charles Pierson on Tue Jan 12 09:22:00 2021
    Hello Charles!

    ** On Tuesday 12.01.21 - 07:59, Charles Pierson wrote to August Abolins:

    There are custom Telegram apps out there. Perhaps ine does
    that already.

    I forgot about the other "alternates" out there. Perhaps there
    is one that has a re-orientate feature. Or.. like I said,
    perhaps someone using their app can chime in and let us know if
    their version does that.


    The app could also feature addons for taglines and other
    features..

    Maybe some of those custom bots could do that?

    Ah yes! I forgot about the bots option. But I think they only
    operate before and after the posts/editing, not during.

    But maybe a bot can be triggered with custom in-line commands.

    Eg. To add a random tagline use "--tt:r--" for a [r]andom one
    from a user-defined or global database, or use the phone's
    shortcuts to grab one from a file?

    There are probably several possibilities.

    Every time I type "bb" on my Blackberry, the system expands it
    to "Blackberry". I haven't found out *where* I can configure
    that or add new ones. :(


    Traditional inter-message quoting could still be a
    challenge..

    I agree the quoting system leaves something to be desired.
    Although I'm not sure what you mean about BBS Users not
    cleaning up their quoting. With Mystic, at least, I have to
    select the lines that I'm quoting as I go.

    I have seen more and more users avoiding the inner-quoting for
    messages like this. A new/young generation coming into this
    echomail world probably wouldn't care anyway. Some things simply
    need to be abandoned - perhaps. With the msgid/replyid in play,
    exhausting re-editing of messages for the sake of replies is
    technically not required anyway.


    Now with HotdogEd, quotes could get messy...

    I've seen that. :(

    --
    ../|ug

    --- OpenXP 5.0.48
    * Origin: Mobile? https://t.me/joinchat/SPBwvE1gkHzEKAkapsHkdQ (2:221/1.58)