Hi Dave,

the burners. I'll bet your Dad's was white w/black accents. No
"avocago" or "harvest gold" in those days.

Yes, it was white but I don't remember any accents. It was the stove I learned to cook on.

Maybe I was making the painting of the undersides of the stove's
panels with black enamel and allowing it to show at the seams sound
more elegant than it was. Bv)=

Sounds logical.

We had a wall oven in our quarters on Fort Hood, TX. Stove top was gas, set on a flat surface with, as I recall, counter space on both sides. I really liked the wall oven, thought if we ever built a house, I'd do
that. OTOH, our older daughter has one in her house--they had it custom built--but she's not really that happy with it.

Does she have a specific complaint about missing features? Or perhaps she's just not a baker

She is somewhat of a baker. Top oven is actually a microwave. Main
complaint about the regular ove is that it takes a long time to preheat
and baking takes longer than usual time for most things.

The dual oven set-up I had at the tin can was nice. I catered
Thanksgiving dinner one year and it was as near perfect as I could
have wished. Did the bird in the big (bottom) oven and the sides in
the smaller upper unit.

Did this on the cook-top using goose fat from the roasing bird ....

Title: Sauteed Potatoes in Goose Fat DD> Categories: Five,

Tv-food, Vegetables, Potatoes DD> Yield: 6 Servings

Sounds like you made good use of all the cooking surfaces. I do remember
that one year while we were in AZ, my sister roasted (not smoked) her Thanksgiving turkey on the outside gas grill. IIRC, that was one time
when she was about to throw out the carcasse after the meal, with a lot
of meat still on it (she didn't like dealing with leftovers). I asked if
I could take the carcasse home with us (we'd brought up a cooler with
pumkin pies and other goodies in it), got it and made soup with it.

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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

We had a wall oven in our quarters on Fort Hood, TX. Stove top was gas, set on a flat surface with, as I recall, counter space on both sides. I really liked the wall oven, thought if we ever built a house, I'd do
that. OTOH, our older daughter has one in her house--they had it custom built--but she's not really that happy with it.

Does she have a specific complaint about missing features? Or perhaps she's just not a baker

She is somewhat of a baker. Top oven is actually a microwave. Main complaint about the regular ove is that it takes a long time to preheat and baking takes longer than usual time for most things.

All ovens are different. The oven on my current stove heats to about 340º
on a setting of 350º. So, I boost the dial a bit until my instant-read
tells me to temp is proper.

The dual oven set-up I had at the tin can was nice. I catered
Thanksgiving dinner one year and it was as near perfect as I could
have wished. Did the bird in the big (bottom) oven and the sides in
the smaller upper unit.

Did this on the cook-top using goose fat from the roasing bird ....

Title: Sauteed Potatoes in Goose Fat DD> Categories: Five,

Tv-food, Vegetables, Potatoes DD> Yield: 6 Servings

Sounds like you made good use of all the cooking surfaces. I do
remember that one year while we were in AZ, my sister roasted (not
smoked) her Thanksgiving turkey on the outside gas grill. IIRC, that
was one time when she was about to throw out the carcasse after the
meal, with a lot of meat still on it (she didn't like dealing with leftovers). I asked if I could take the carcasse home with us (we'd brought up a cooler with pumkin pies and other goodies in it), got it
and made soup with it.

Sounds like something I'd do. My local GFS is selling rotisserie chickens
for U$3 each. I save the carcasses after stripping the meaat. Makes some
very nice stock ... and inexpensive.

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Title: Rotisserie Chicken Enchiladas
Categories: Latino, Poultry, Chilies, Cheese, Breads
Yield: 5 Servings

10 sm Flour tortillas
1/2 Leftover rotisserie chicken;
- meat stripped, shredded
15 oz Can black beans
3 tb Oil
1 lg Onion; thin sliced
2 cl Garlic; minced
1 1/2 ts Smoked paprika
Handful Swiss Chard; chopped
1 c Corn niblets
1 tb Chipotles in adobo; minced
1 ts Chilli spice mix
1 ts Ground cumin
3/4 c Canned tomatoes
1 tb Brown sugar
1/2 c Shredded cheese; a mix of
- yellow and white
Salt

For the beans and enchilada sauce: In a frying pan, sauté
the onions in the canola oil over medium-low heat until
translucent. Add the garlic and cook a few minutes until
softened. Scrape half of this mixture into a medium
saucepan.

In the original pan, add the smoked paprika, and the can
of black beans (don't bother draining). Cook until the
beans' liquid is reduced, then add in the greens. Once
they’ve wilted, turn off the heat and set the whole
skillet aside. Add salt to taste-be careful though, as
canned beans can be salty.

In the other saucepan, add chipotles, chilli spice, cumin,
tomatoes, brown sugar, and a cup of water to the saucepan.
Bring to a boil and cook until reduced by half, about 20
minutes. Cool slightly, then puree in a blender, taste for
salt, and set aside.

To make the enchiladas: Up to 1 day in advance, assemble
the enchiladas: roll about a 1/2 cup of shredded chicken
and a few tablespoons of corn in half of the tortillas,
folding in the ends so the filling stays in. Fill the
remaining tortillas with 1/2 cup black beans and a few
teaspoons of corn. Arrange in a 9" × 13" baking dish.

When ready to serve, preheat the oven to 350ºF/175ºC. Pour
the sauce evenly over the whole pan, then sprinkle with
the cheese. Bake 15-20 minutes, until the enchiladas are
heated through and the cheese is melted. Serve with sour
cream and/or rice and a simple green salad.

From: http://www.biggirlssmallkitchen.com

Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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Hi Dave,

She is somewhat of a baker. Top oven is actually a microwave. Main complaint about the regular ove is that it takes a long time to preheat and baking takes longer than usual time for most things.

All ovens are different. The oven on my current stove heats to about
340º on a setting of 350º. So, I boost the dial a bit until my instant-read tells me to temp is proper.

That's why, early on, we bought the first in a number of oven
thermometers. They were quite handy as we moved from place to place, not knowing initially how accurate the dial was. In one place (pre Army),
the markings had all worn off the dial so it was quite the guessing game
until we got the thermometer in and were able to do basic marks on the
dial.

meal, with a lot of meat still on it (she didn't like dealing with leftovers). I asked if I could take the carcasse home with us (we'd brought up a cooler with pumkin pies and other goodies in it), got it
and made soup with it.

Sounds like something I'd do. My local GFS is selling rotisserie
chickens for U$3 each. I save the carcasses after stripping the meaat. Makes some very nice stock ... and inexpensive.

I do that also with the rotisserie chickens we get.


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Hi Dave,

All ovens are different. The oven on my current stove heats to about
340� on a setting of 350�. So, I boost the dial a bit until my instant-read tells me to temp is proper.

That's why, early on, we bought the first in a number of oven thermometers. They were quite handy as we moved from place to place,
not knowing initially how accurate the dial was. In one place (pre
Army), the markings had all worn off the dial so it was quite the

I've an assortment of oven dial thermemeters and instant read style instruments. As well as a couple of dial thermometers I keep in the freezer(s).

I keep one each in th fridge freezer and the free standing one. Plus we
have one in the camper fridge. As with the ovens, fridges and freezers
differed widely in the various places we lived so we learned early on to
have a thermometer in them.

One time, as a chilli cook-off we fot sa new health minspector who
was probably a bit "exercised" over having to work on a nice Sunday afternoon. First she ragged on me about not having a dish-washing
set-up. And I told her "I don't re-use my pots and pans. I take them
home and wash up in my kitchen sink. Then she wanted to check my thermometer. When I told her I hadn't brought onw she swelled up and
asked "How do you know your chilli is at least 180 degrees?"

So, I asked her "What temperature does water boil at?" mthen lifted
the lid on my chilli pot to show I was holding a 5 bubble simmer.
Bv)=

Got the point across quick and easy without (too much) insult.

meal, with a lot of meat still on it (she didn't like dealing with leftovers). I asked if I could take the carcasse home with us (we'd brought up a cooler with pumkin pies and other goodies in it), got it
and made soup with it.

Sounds like something I'd do. My local GFS is selling rotisserie
chickens for U$3 each. I save the carcasses after stripping the meaat. Makes some very nice stock ... and inexpensive.

I do that also with the rotisserie chickens we get.

One of the few things that smarty-pants Bobby Flay got right:

Title: Rich Chicken Stock
Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs
Yield: 3 Pints

I just use water, a bit of salt and Bragg's Seasoning for making stock.
Then after I debone the bird, I'll add some turmeric.

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Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

One time, as a chilli cook-off we fot sa new health minspector who
was probably a bit "exercised" over having to work on a nice Sunday afternoon. First she ragged on me about not having a dish-washing
set-up. And I told her "I don't re-use my pots and pans. I take them
home and wash up in my kitchen sink. Then she wanted to check my thermometer. When I told her I hadn't brought onw she swelled up and
asked "How do you know your chilli is at least 180 degrees?"

So, I asked her "What temperature does water boil at?" mthen lifted
the lid on my chilli pot to show I was holding a 5 bubble simmer.
Bv)=

Got the point across quick and easy without (too much) insult.

Too mant bureaucraps focus more on the wording than on the intent of regulations.

meal, with a lot of meat still on it (she didn't like dealing with leftovers). I asked if I could take the carcasse home with us (we'd brought up a cooler with pumkin pies and other goodies in it), got it
and made soup with it.

Sounds like something I'd do. My local GFS is selling rotisserie
chickens for U$3 each. I save the carcasses after stripping the meaat. Makes some very nice stock ... and inexpensive.

I do that also with the rotisserie chickens we get.

One of the few things that smarty-pants Bobby Flay got right:

Title: Rich Chicken Stock
Categories: Poultry, Vegetables, Herbs
Yield: 3 Pints

I just use water, a bit of salt and Bragg's Seasoning for making stock. Then after I debone the bird, I'll add some turmeric.

We all have our ways of getting it done. But, I've *always* used veggies
as a part of my stock making ... be it poultry of beef/pork/etc.

A free and easy addition to this stock is to bung in any celery leaves
youmay have hanging about. I've never canned this - just jarred it in
old mayonnaise (or similar) jars and refigerated it for up to a month
or so.

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Title: Homemade Beef Stock
Categories: Beef vegeta, Herbs
Yield: 6 Quarts

10 lb Meaty beef bones; shanks or
- ribs, or a combination
5 lg Shallots; halved
4 Garlic cloves; halved
4 c Rough chopped carrots
1 lg Celeriac; chopped in large
- pieces
3 tb Tomato paste
1 tb Olive oil
5 qt Cool non-chlorinated water *
12 Black peppercorns
3 Dried bay leaves
12 Parsley stems

* You can let tap water sit in an open contasiner
overnight to let the chlorine "out gas" and turn into
"non-chlorinated" water. -- UDD

Set the oven @ 425oF/218oC.

Line a baking sheet with parchment.

Put the bones, shallots, garlic, carrots, and celeriac
on the baking sheet.

Combine the tomato paste and oil in a small bowl, then
rub all over the bones and vegetables. Spread the bones
and vegetables out and roast until well browned, about
40 minutes; rotate the pan halfway through.

Transfer the roasted bones, vegetables, and any juices
to a large stockpot. Add 1/4 cup of the water to the
baking sheet to loosen any tasty bits and scrape this
fond into the stockpot.

Add the peppercorns, bay leaves, and stems to the pot,
add the remaining water, and bring to a boil.

Reduce the heat, skim any foam, cover, and simmer gently
for 6 hours.

Strain the stock through a colander into large bowls or
jars. Refrigerate overnight.

Scrape the solidified fat from the stock and discard.
Strain the stock through a fine sieve into the stockpot
and bring to a boil.

Ladle into the clean jars. Wipe the jar rims clean with
white vinegar. Place the lids and rings on the jars and
finger-tighten the rings.

Process at 10 pounds of pressure: pint jars for 20
minutes, quart jars for 25 minutes. If you have a mixed
batch, process for the full 25 minutes. Let the pressure
fall and the canner cool before removing the jars.

Let the jars cool completely, then test the seal.

The stock is shelf stable for 1 year.

By Cathy Barrow

Makes: 6 quarts

RECIPE FROM: https://www.motherearthnews.com

Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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