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  • Re: I watched the 'talk' that..

    From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to August Abolins on Tue Mar 4 07:58:59 2025
    August Abolins wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

    Zelensky is no slouch when it comes to wit, but his visit was
    weighed by the serious burden of his country and people under
    attack - I could imagine that humour and levity would be hard
    to maintain at all times. But Vance and Trump were
    disrespectful pricks in this situation.

    Two things stuck out at me - When Zelenskyy said, in pretty good English
    that if you don't deal with Russia in Ukraine, you'll deal with them at
    your doorstep, and it felt like Trump saw that as an opening to distort
    that and go on the offensive, saying "You don't tell me what to do".
    That seemed like an intentional escalation, not a misunderstanding.

    Secondly, when Trump described Zelenskyy's strategy as "not good
    business", it rang hollow. Governing a people is *not* a business.



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  • From August Abolins@1:153/757.21 to Kurt Weiske on Tue Mar 4 19:24:00 2025
    Hello Kurt!

    [...] But Vance and Trump were
    disrespectful pricks in this situation.

    Two things stuck out at me - When Zelenskyy said, in
    pretty good English that if you don't deal with Russia in
    Ukraine, you'll deal with them at your doorstep, and it
    felt like Trump saw that as an opening to distort that and
    go on the offensive, saying "You don't tell me what to
    do". That seemed like an intentional escalation, not a
    misunderstanding.

    I think the phrase T used was "don't tell me how we FEEL".


    Secondly, when Trump described Zelenskyy's strategy as
    "not good business", it rang hollow. Governing a people is
    *not* a business.

    Yeah.. T is primarily in business mode, so not surprised he
    uses business jargon. The "cards in your hands" one is a bit
    ridiculous, and Z picked up on that when he said "I'm not
    playing cards!"


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