• Re: Commodore 128

    From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Dr. What on Tue Jul 28 21:24:22 2026

    The 128 has a 80 column mode where you can connect it to a CGA-compatible display using the 9 pin video connector. Without the video RAM upgrade, t display would only be monochrome. But with the upgrade, you can get all t Commodore colors in 80 column mode.

    Thanks! I had planned to connect the 128 side to one of my Tandy CM-11a or my IBM 5153.

    Last night, I got a Sony 20" PVM from Commodore Sam, and I want to get a breakout cable for the "S-video" (isn't that just chroma luma?) to connect to it as well as my other PVMs. Also for my 64U.

    The software exists. Ex: https://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/c128/

    But the 128 mode of the C128 was not heavily used. The vast majority of t software available was for the C64. And software vendors targeted the C64 since it had the wider market.


    I knew about that sadly regarding lowest common denominator, but I figured there have to be a few real bangers out there, too... especially with new home brew.

    BBSing is a huge part of my vintage activities. Any suggestions on term software for both the 64 and 128? 80 column support?

    Thanks!

    Bo

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  • From Dr. What@1:342/201 to Bo Holt on Wed Jul 29 04:57:20 2026
    Bo Holt wrote to Dr. What <=-

    Thanks! I had planned to connect the 128 side to one of my Tandy
    CM-11a or my IBM 5153.

    That ought to work.

    Last night, I got a Sony 20" PVM from Commodore Sam, and I want to get
    a breakout cable for the "S-video" (isn't that just chroma luma?) to connect to it as well as my other PVMs. Also for my 64U.

    I'm not sure. What I've heard is that Luma/Chroma is S-Video, but the cable is different.

    I know that you can get an S-Video cable for your C-64 that will just plug in, though.

    BBSing is a huge part of my vintage activities. Any suggestions on
    term software for both the 64 and 128? 80 column support?

    Not off the top of my head. I only had a C128 for a short time before clearing it out for other things.

    I guess you get to have fun trying them out. :)


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  • From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Dr. What on Wed Jul 29 19:19:00 2026
    Thanks! I had planned to connect the 128 side to one of my Tandy CM-11a or my IBM 5153.

    That ought to work.

    Last night, I got a Sony 20" PVM from Commodore Sam, and I want to ge a breakout cable for the "S-video" (isn't that just chroma luma?) to connect to it as well as my other PVMs. Also for my 64U.

    I'm not sure. What I've heard is that Luma/Chroma is S-Video, but the cab different.

    I know that you can get an S-Video cable for your C-64 that will just plug though.

    BBSing is a huge part of my vintage activities. Any suggestions on term software for both the 64 and 128? 80 column support?

    Not off the top of my head. I only had a C128 for a short time before cle it out for other things.

    I guess you get to have fun trying them out. :)

    Other sources have confirmed the S-video, so yeah, I am going to stock up on cables.

    I am borrowing an SD2IEC from Commodore so I can actually have a method to get software on and off to test LOL. I'll buyone for myself, how quickly depends on how crazy I go at VCF ;)

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  • From Mortar M.@1:124/5016 to Bo Holt on Thu Jul 30 09:42:36 2026
    Re: Re: Commodore 128
    By: Bo Holt to Dr. What on Wed Jul 29 2026 19:19:00

    I am borrowing an SD2IEC from Commodore...

    How did you do that?
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  • From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Mortar M. on Thu Jul 30 20:28:36 2026
    I am borrowing an SD2IEC from Commodore...

    How did you do that?
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    It was supposed to say Commodore Sam. After I sent the message, I saw some characters dropped out while typing. My connection to my Wimodem232 Pro sometimes gets laggy.

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  • From RobertB@3:633/10 to All on Mon Aug 3 02:26:00 2026

    Dr. What posted:

    Interesting. I had a C128 for a short period of time. In 80 column mode it was only monochrome. When I researched it, everything I read said "they skimped
    on the video RAM" was the reason.

    Heh, I've had C128's since 1985 and have used flat C128's and C128D's (both
    plastic and metal versions). :) Wherever you got your research was wrong. Yes,
    on a C128 with 16K video RAM, you only get monochrome when you go up to a resolution of 640 x 200. If you keep the resolution to 320 x 200, you will get 16 colors, whether you have 16K or 64K video RAM. See the specs at

    https://www.vgmuseum.com/systems/c128/

    Truly,
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  • From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Robertb on Fri Aug 7 22:09:42 2026
    BBSing is a huge part of my vintage activities. Any suggestions on term software for both the 64 and 128? 80 column support?

    First, look at the C128 Commercial Software/Hardware list at

    https://portcommodore.com/retro-link/index.php/topic,1366.msg3695.html#msg3

    That will give you an idea of what is out there for the C128, even though some of the commercial items may be hard to find.
    As for the latest news on new C128 software, see

    https://c-128.freeforums.net/

    and you can look under Games for C128 or under Herdware.

    Truly,
    Robert Bernardo
    Fresno Commodore User Group -
    Thanks for the links! I got a SD2IEC from Commodore Sam and have been learning how to use it and got the File Browser. Thatmakes it easier to get started since the Commodore command lines are not second nature to me ;) I've got to get a Wimodem for it eventually.

    Bo

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  • From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Rug Rat on Mon Aug 10 20:22:03 2026
    To answer the terminal question, DesTerm is the go to terminal program (8 Column ONLY) for the C-128.

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  • From Rug Rat@1:135/250 to Bo Holt on Tue Aug 11 01:47:23 2026
    What are you looking to do with the Terminal Program?

    Connect to TELNET BBSs
    or
    Old fashioned DIALUPs? (There are a few of those around..).

    Either way, your first step would be to get a highspeed modem card (This goes in to the C=128s cartridge port).

    My recommendation would be the Turbo232/Swiftlink clone the GLINK 232T by GGLABS.

    https://www.tindie.com/stores/gglabs/

    Once aquired, you can build a special serial cable and BBS link to connect to a PC and telnet out. (I can help with that if you require assistance.).

    Other options are a WiFi modem (But I do not have any experience with that.).

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  • From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Rug Rat on Tue Aug 11 10:14:26 2026
    What are you looking to do with the Terminal Program?

    Connect to TELNET BBSs
    or
    Old fashioned DIALUPs? (There are a few of those around..).

    Either way, your first step would be to get a highspeed modem card (This g in to the C=128s cartridge port).

    My recommendation would be the Turbo232/Swiftlink clone the GLINK 232T by GGLABS.

    https://www.tindie.com/stores/gglabs/

    Once aquired, you can build a special serial cable and BBS link to connect a PC and telnet out. (I can help with that if you require assistance.).

    Other options are a WiFi modem (But I do not have any experience with that

    Both, actually! I have a Wimodem232 and a Wimodem232 Pro, which I believe is manufactured by CBM Stuff? They obviously first made these for Commodores. Most of the time I use the Wimodem for convenience, but I like the authenticity of dialup from time to time.

    My budget is blown for vintage stuff this month after VCFSE, but I do want to do this. I appreciate your offer of assistance! My modern email is [email protected]

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  • From Phigan@3:633/10 to RobertB on Sat Aug 15 11:30:01 2026
    To: RobertB
    Re: Re: Commodore 128
    By: RobertB to comp.sys.cbm on Sun Aug 02 2026 00:55:07

    P.S. I'm not an expert in BBS term software, but I can direct you to a club member who runs BBS's.

    For C128 using the 80 columns out, DesTerm is the program to use.

    For C64, StrikeTerm2014 is the one to use for 80 column ANSI support. CCGMS Future v0.2 is the one to use for 40 column AND 80 column PETSCII.

    The B&W output from the 9pin 80col port on the 128 could've been the composite out (pin 7 iirc)?

    Dan, make the PETSCII things for yourself, others will follow. People that frequent those web forums don't necessarily use BBSes and vice versa. Here I am typing on my breadbin, and I don't use web forums ;).

    This reply was to multiple people.
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  • From John Ames@3:633/10 to All on Sat Aug 15 11:30:01 2026
    On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 01:59:31 -0400
    "Phigan" <[email protected]-51d-this> wrote:

    The B&W output from the 9pin 80col port on the 128 could've been the composite out (pin 7 iirc)?

    Not really - the 80-column port uses the RGBI standard, as used by IBM
    on the CGA, and this includes mono video on that pin as a carry-over
    from the MDA. Messing around with the established standard would've
    jeopardized compatibility with all the existing CGA (and CGA/MDA/HGC)
    monitors out there.


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  • From Bo Holt@1:129/305 to Phigan on Sat Aug 15 08:30:59 2026
    To: RobertB
    Re: Re: Commodore 128
    By: RobertB to comp.sys.cbm on Sun Aug 02 2026 00:55:07

    P.S. I'm not an expert in BBS term software, but I can direct you to a club member who runs BBS's.

    For C128 using the 80 columns out, DesTerm is the program to use.

    For C64, StrikeTerm2014 is the one to use for 80 column ANSI support. CCGMS Future v0.2 is the one to use for 40 column AND 80 column PETSCII.

    The B&W output from the 9pin 80col port on the 128 could've been the compos out (pin 7 iirc)?

    Dan, make the PETSCII things for yourself, others will follow. People that frequent those web forums don't necessarily use BBSes and vice versa. Here typing on my breadbin, and I don't use web forums ;).

    This reply was to multiple people.

    Lots of great tips. Thanks!

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  • From phigan@3:633/10 to All on Sun Aug 16 12:00:01 2026
    On 2026-08-14, John Ames <[email protected]> wrote:

    The B&W output from the 9pin 80col port on the 128 could've been the
    composite out (pin 7 iirc)?

    Not really - the 80-column port uses the RGBI standard, as used by IBM
    on the CGA, and this includes mono video on that pin as a carry-over

    Nope, the memory of having a mono pic out of the 9pin port couldn't have possibly been using a composite cable, connected to that "mono video on
    that pin"... Is that what you're saying here? ;)

    Cool, cool.

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  • From John Ames@3:633/10 to All on Tue Aug 18 09:30:02 2026
    On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 16:42:26 -0000 (UTC)
    phigan <[email protected]> wrote:

    The B&W output from the 9pin 80col port on the 128 could've been
    the composite out (pin 7 iirc)?

    Not really - the 80-column port uses the RGBI standard, as used by
    IBM on the CGA, and this includes mono video on that pin as a
    carry-over

    Nope, the memory of having a mono pic out of the 9pin port couldn't
    have possibly been using a composite cable, connected to that "mono
    video on that pin"... Is that what you're saying here? ;)

    Cool, cool.

    Hm, perhaps I am mistaken; the 128 PRG does label pin 7 as "composite."
    The more you know...


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