Hi folks,
Where could I assemble a good PC Linux (better, Mageia!;)) oriented on
the web?

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kyuzo wrote:

Hi folks,
Where could I assemble a good PC Linux (better, Mageia!;)) oriented on
the web?

I don't understand this question.

To me, 'assemble a PC' means to purchase parts, typically for a desktop computer, such as case, power supply, motherboard, CPU, ram, keyboard,
mouse, monitor, etc and 'assemble' those parts into a working computer
without an operating system such as would be installed by an OEM selling
an assembled desktop computer, typically with Windows, but sometimes
more expensively with linux.

Then, you say 'oriented on the web' -- or maybe the construction could
be reordered to be, 'where on the web could I (find the necessary pieces
and parts to) assemble a desktop PC.

Otherwise, I don't yet understand what 'oriented on the web' means.

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I am afraid I agree with Easter on this. You state you want to
"assemble" a "PC Linux" or "Mageia". Both are software operating system together with a huge set of programs. They run on computers. You can get
them for free-- no assembly needed, just installation.

Or as Easter muses, you are refering to assembling hardare parts into a computer capable of running thos operating system. But almost any PC,
even if it comes with say Microsoft installed, can have either operating
system installed.

As you can see we are confused by your question. If you told us what you
want, we could be of much greater help.

On 2026-06-05, Mike Easter <[email protected]d> wrote:

kyuzo wrote:

Hi folks,
Where could I assemble a good PC Linux (better, Mageia!;)) oriented on
the web?

I don't understand this question.

To me, 'assemble a PC' means to purchase parts, typically for a desktop computer, such as case, power supply, motherboard, CPU, ram, keyboard, mouse, monitor, etc and 'assemble' those parts into a working computer without an operating system such as would be installed by an OEM selling
an assembled desktop computer, typically with Windows, but sometimes
more expensively with linux.

Then, you say 'oriented on the web' -- or maybe the construction could
be reordered to be, 'where on the web could I (find the necessary pieces
and parts to) assemble a desktop PC.

Otherwise, I don't yet understand what 'oriented on the web' means.

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Il 06/06/26 05:27, William Unruh ha scritto:

As you can see we are confused by your question. If you told us what you want, we could be of much greater help.

You and Mike are right, my fault.
I've bought my last computer in a webshop, where i could plan the configuration of the hardware choosing in different profiles, and then
the shop send me the assembled product, without OS.
This, fourteen years ago.
In the meanwhile this shop closed its activity and now I'm searching for
a similar solution.

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On 6/06/2026 1:27 pm, William Unruh wrote:

I am afraid I agree with Easter on this. You state you want to
"assemble" a "PC Linux" or "Mageia". Both are software operating system together with a huge set of programs. They run on computers. You can get
them for free-- no assembly needed, just installation.

Or as Easter muses, you are refering to assembling hardare parts into a computer capable of running thos operating system. But almost any PC,
even if it comes with say Microsoft installed, can have either operating system installed.

..... or BOTH OS's installed .... i.e. Dual Boot.

As you can see we are confused by your question. If you told us what you want, we could be of much greater help.

On 2026-06-05, Mike Easter <[email protected]d> wrote:

kyuzo wrote:

Hi folks,
Where could I assemble a good PC Linux (better, Mageia!;)) oriented on
the web?

I don't understand this question.

To me, 'assemble a PC' means to purchase parts, typically for a desktop
computer, such as case, power supply, motherboard, CPU, ram, keyboard,
mouse, monitor, etc and 'assemble' those parts into a working computer
without an operating system such as would be installed by an OEM selling
an assembled desktop computer, typically with Windows, but sometimes
more expensively with linux.

Then, you say 'oriented on the web' -- or maybe the construction could
be reordered to be, 'where on the web could I (find the necessary pieces
and parts to) assemble a desktop PC.

Otherwise, I don't yet understand what 'oriented on the web' means.

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In that case it would help to say where you are in the world. It wold
hardly be useful to tell you about places in London when you live in SanFrancisco or Shanghi. Also it might help to say what special things
you need. The parts for a computer are often far more retail than the
proce of the preassembled. I agree that 14 years is a really long time
for a computer to last, so that parts were clearly of good quality. But
that is not always the case, and has very little to do with the operating system.

On 2026-06-06, kyuzo <[email protected]> wrote:

Il 06/06/26 05:27, William Unruh ha scritto:

As you can see we are confused by your question. If you told us what you
want, we could be of much greater help.

You and Mike are right, my fault.
I've bought my last computer in a webshop, where i could plan the configuration of the hardware choosing in different profiles, and then
the shop send me the assembled product, without OS.
This, fourteen years ago.
In the meanwhile this shop closed its activity and now I'm searching for
a similar solution.

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kyuzo wrote:

I've bought my last computer in a webshop, where i could plan the configuration of the hardware choosing in different profiles, and then
the  shop send me the assembled product, without OS.

While my first computers were Atari STs preassembled w/ TOS operating
system, my first Win95 computer was done by a local 'assembly shop' as
you describe, except that they not only provided the components 'as
specified' by the customer (kinda like ordering a Dell computer online),
but they also installed the W95 and some requested software such as
Office added to the price.

After that I started assembling my own, while still buying the pieces
and parts locally when on sale from a big warehouse computer operation.
Then I would have a computer w/o OS, and by the time W98se came along I
was more into linux than Win.

As time went on, I found that I could get my best deals by buying
refurb/s on sale, typically w/ a refurb Win licensed OS installed, so in
those days I was mostly dual-booting. Then that evolved into preferring
to have multiple desktops and NOT dual booting, but instead being able
to 'flip' between desktops instantly by having KVM (keyboard vid mouse) switch; so I got away from dual booting but still continued to use
'something' in Win even today, even if 'seldom'.

Personally I still recommend a refurb Win as the best deal, because
every refurb I've ever bought was in pristine condition, even tho' knowledgeable advisors have told me that the odds of getting a 'dog'
were high. I would never buy something 'risky' that requires complex
return shipping arrangements if you are unhappy. Every time I've bought something that required shipping that had risk, it was able to be
returned to a storefront.

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Mike Easter wrote:

Personally I still recommend a refurb Win as the best deal,

However, that isn't the only way to go, depending on what you intend to
do w/ the result.

One of my systems bought several years ago is an RPi 3B, which has only
1G ram, but it is actually functional w/ a lightweight Raspbian OS.

If I were going to do/buy 'that'/such today, there is a lot more
resources available in higher level RPi/s, which are perfectly capable
of functioning as a conventional desktop computer w/ sufficient ram.

You should say what country you are in and what you like to do w/ your computer. Personally I'm mostly using my browser and Tb for newsgroups.

You posted your msg w/ a tz stamp of +0200

Eastern Europe: Greece, Finland, Ukraine, Romania, and Latvia.
Middle East: Egypt, Israel, and Palestine.
Africa: South Africa, Botswana, and Zimbabwe

I'm not familiar w/ the best way to buy some kind of computer in those countries.

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Mike Easter wrote:

Personally I still recommend a refurb Win as the best deal,

I just did a little 'comparison' shopping from my own location, not a tz
+2. There is *ABSOLUTELY* no comparison of prices between assembling a
system from new pieces and parts vs buying a refurb, typically w/
installed W10; the price difference is HUGE.

Also, for a 'stateside' shopper, I see lotsa 'free shipping'. The first 'problem' I see is that I have no idea of the quality of the refurb/s at
the site I was shopping, and also the one I was shopping was NOT a local storefront I could return a problem to.

I could buy 3 or 4 'satisfactorily' equipped systems for what I would
have to pay for 1 assembled w/ new parts.

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On 2026-06-06 13:53, Mike Easter wrote:

kyuzo wrote:

I've bought my last computer in a webshop, where i could plan the
configuration of the hardware choosing in different profiles, and then
the  shop send me the assembled product, without OS.

While my first computers were Atari STs preassembled w/ TOS operating system, my first Win95 computer was done by a local 'assembly shop' as
you describe, except that they not only provided the components 'as specified' by the customer (kinda like ordering a Dell computer online),
but they also installed the W95 and some requested software such as
Office added to the price.

After that I started assembling my own, while still buying the pieces
and parts locally when on sale from a big warehouse computer operation.
Then I would have a computer w/o OS, and by the time W98se came along I
was more into linux than Win.

As time went on, I found that I could get my best deals by buying
refurb/s on sale, typically w/ a refurb Win licensed OS installed, so in those days I was mostly dual-booting. Then that evolved into preferring
to have multiple desktops and NOT dual booting, but instead being able
to 'flip' between desktops instantly by having KVM (keyboard vid mouse) switch; so I got away from dual booting but still continued to use 'something' in Win even today, even if 'seldom'.

Personally I still recommend a refurb Win as the best deal, because
every refurb I've ever bought was in pristine condition, even tho' knowledgeable advisors have told me that the odds of getting a 'dog'
were high.  I would never buy something 'risky' that requires complex return shipping arrangements if you are unhappy. Every time I've bought something that required shipping that had risk, it was able to be
returned to a storefront.

Depending on what he does with his computer and what he has now, he may
not need much new hardware. He says his hardware is from 2012.

My current best laptop is from late 2013, only a year newer, and it runs
great with Mageia. Another laptop is an HP 6550b, from 2010. That one
loves Mageia too, but has a bad internal speaker so needs an external
speaker add-on. My brother's current desktop is a hand-me-down from me,
and it was also from 2010 - but it works just fine with Mageia.

One thing those old computers have i common was that I replaced the rust drives that came in them with SSDs, making for a huge boost in
performance. Two of the machines have 8GB of RAM, one has 16 - plenty if
all you're looking for is something to surf the web, play some videos,
and write emails.

TJ

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On 16/06/2026 11:43 am, TJ wrote:

<Snip>

Depending on what he does with his computer and what he has now, he may
not need much new hardware. He says his hardware is from 2012.

My current best laptop is from late 2013, only a year newer, and it runs great with Mageia. Another laptop is an HP 6550b, from 2010. That one
loves Mageia too, but has a bad internal speaker so needs an external speaker add-on. My brother's current desktop is a hand-me-down from me,
and it was also from 2010 - but it works just fine with Mageia.

Back in the Noughties, I had a HP 6730b Laptop that, in 2009, had Win-7 installed. I then installed MandrakaLinux V10.1 on it about a Week
before those Developers dumped the name Mandrake (because of a naming
problem with the comic, Mandrake) and switched to MandrivaLinux .... and
then, later, to MageiaLinux .... which I used through to V 6.0 or
something before the Win-7 gave up the ghost about eighteen months ago.
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TJ wrote:

Mike Easter wrote:

kyuzo wrote:

I've bought my last computer in a webshop, where i could plan the
configuration of the hardware choosing in different profiles, and
then the  shop send me the assembled product, without OS.

Personally I still recommend a refurb Win as the best deal, because
every refurb I've ever bought was in pristine condition, even tho'
knowledgeable advisors have told me that the odds of getting a 'dog'
were high.

Depending on what he does with his computer and what he has now, he may
not need much new hardware. He says his hardware is from 2012.

My current best laptop is from late 2013, only a year newer, and it runs great with Mageia. Another laptop is an HP 6550b, from 2010. That one
loves Mageia too, but has a bad internal speaker so needs an external speaker add-on. My brother's current desktop is a hand-me-down from me,
and it was also from 2010 - but it works just fine with Mageia.

One thing those old computers have i common was that I replaced the rust drives that came in them with SSDs, making for a huge boost in
performance. Two of the machines have 8GB of RAM, one has 16 - plenty if
all you're looking for is something to surf the web, play some videos,
and write emails.

This machine I'm 'typing' on is a Win7 refurb bios dated '11, came w/ 4G
ram and I added 4 more; I have another 'twin' just like it. I've added
SSDs to both of them and they're going strong and doing fine. One of
them occasionally boots Win7 but is 99.9% linux, and the other's hdd
died and is 100% linux lives sometimes persistence off its ssd.

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On 16/6/26 21:23, Daniel70 wrote:

Back in the Noughties, I had a HP 6730b Laptop that, in 2009, had Win-7 installed. I then installed MandrakaLinux V10.1 on it about a Week
before those Developers dumped the name Mandrake (because of a naming problem with the comic, Mandrake) and switched to MandrivaLinux .... and then, later, to MageiaLinux .... which I used through to V 6.0 or
something before the Win-7 gave up the ghost about eighteen months ago.

I almost followed your path
Mine was computer shop custom build, no OS
I ran OS/2 for many years then Red Hat then Mandrake and so on
I think I gave up at Windows 98

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On 16/6/26 11:43, TJ wrote:

One thing those old computers have i common was that I replaced the rust drives that came in them with SSDs, making for a huge boost in
performance. Two of the machines have 8GB of RAM, one has 16 - plenty if
all you're looking for is something to surf the web, play some videos,
and write emails.

TJ

When I had the current box assembled they suggested an SSD
I was reluctant but went ahead.
Boot times were mind blowing fast. All those kernel message flashed past
in record time
AND THEN I installed Mageia from a USB flash instead of DVD and that
took moments instead of the usual half an hour
A brave new world
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On 17/06/2026 9:45 am, faeychild wrote:

On 16/6/26 21:23, Daniel70 wrote:

Back in the Noughties, I had a HP 6730b Laptop that, in 2009, had
Win-7 installed. I then installed MandrakaLinux V10.1 on it about a
Week before those Developers dumped the name Mandrake (because of a
naming problem with the comic, Mandrake) and switched to MandrivaLinux
.... and then, later, to MageiaLinux .... which I used through to V
6.0 or something before the Win-7 gave up the ghost about eighteen
months ago.

I almost followed your path
Mine was computer shop custom build, no OS
I ran OS/2 for many years then Red Hat then Mandrake and so on
I think I gave up at Windows 98

Win-95 and -98 where on my 8086'ish Desktop ... which I think came with
DOS-2 or -3 when I brought it ... in about 1986/7 or so.

That Desktop is sitting on the floor next to the chair that I'm sitting
in as I type this. ;-P

Ah!! Memories. When I took my discharge from the Australian Army (after
twenty years service), the Removalists damaged the 8086 Motherboard
(HOW??) so they had to re-furbish it, hence the 80286 motherboard
upgrade. ;-)
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Il 16/06/26 03:43, TJ ha scritto:

Depending on what he does with his computer and what he has now, he may
not need much new hardware. He says his hardware is from 2012.

My current best laptop is from late 2013, only a year newer, and it runs great with Mageia. Another laptop is an HP 6550b, from 2010. That one
loves Mageia too, but has a bad internal speaker so needs an external speaker add-on. My brother's current desktop is a hand-me-down from me,
and it was also from 2010 - but it works just fine with Mageia.

One thing those old computers have i common was that I replaced the rust drives that came in them with SSDs, making for a huge boost in
performance. Two of the machines have 8GB of RAM, one has 16 - plenty if
all you're looking for is something to surf the web, play some videos,
and write emails.

Well, this is the old beast:

Processor: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Memory:7,7 GiB di RAM
Graphic:AMD Radeon RX 550 Series 2GB
HD: ST1000LM035-1RK172
It is good for games too, if they are no too much resource eaters...

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TJ wrote:

Of course, there are dangers in that area, like with buying anything
used, but if you do your due diligence the chances of success are good.

The refurb world is worlds different from the 'user'/used world, but
there are also hazards there; it is VERY dependent on which refurb
outfit you are dealing, which is often impossible to predetermine.

I've bought 3 refurbs in the past; all w/ VERY easy return or exchange
w/ no problematic RMA/shipping possibilities. 2 were desktops, pristine, shrink-wrapped, smelled like new. 1 was a desktop, also pristine, home shakedown cruise showed elevated cpu temp, returned to the same
storefront I acquired it and exchanged it for another pristine one, took
it home and checked it out and it was fine.

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Oops.

Mike Easter wrote:

1 was a desktop, also pristine,

I meant, 1 was a laptop, also pristine.


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On 2026-06-28 23:38, Mike Easter wrote:

Oops.

Mike Easter wrote:

1 was a desktop, also pristine,

I meant, 1 was a laptop, also pristine.

I bought the laptop I'm using now, an HP Pavilion 15 from 2014, at a
local garage sale for $20. It wasn't exactly pristine - the battery was
shot - but the owner plugged in the adapter and booted it into (ugh)
Windows 8 for me so I could see it operated.

I took it home, gave it a new battery, boosted the RAM to the 16GB max, replaced the HD with an SSD, pulled the optical drive I almost never use
any more, replacing that with a caddy holding the original HD.

Then I wiped all traces of Windows, and installed Mageia 9. But then a
problem struck. I had purchased a cheaper ssd because I didn't quite
trust the laptop enough yet to put a more reliable brand into it. You
guessed it - that ssd failed after a few months. But I had more
confidence by then, and replaced that with a better drive, restoring
from backups.

It's now running Mageia 10, with a second install of Mageia 9 for QA
testing purposes while support of it continues. I use it daily.

TJ

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On 29/06/2026 10:59 pm, TJ wrote:

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It's now running Mageia 10, with a second install of Mageia 9 for QA
testing purposes while support of it continues. I use it daily.

TJ

Bugger!! I had meant to get this SSD Desk-top Win-11 to dual boot Mageia
9 BEFORE Mageia 10 was released!! Bugger!

Well, no, I guess NOW, TJ, you are a tester for me! ;-P Thank you.
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TJ wrote:

It's now running Mageia 10, with a second install of Mageia 9 for QA
testing purposes while support of it continues. I use it daily.

Goodjob. I luv frugality; it should be my middle name :-)

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On 2026-06-29 09:12, Daniel70 wrote:

On 29/06/2026 10:59 pm, TJ wrote:

<Snip>

It's now running Mageia 10, with a second install of Mageia 9 for QA
testing purposes while support of it continues. I use it daily.

TJ

Bugger!! I had meant to get this SSD Desk-top Win-11 to dual boot Mageia
9 BEFORE Mageia 10 was released!! Bugger!

Well, no, I guess NOW, TJ, you are a tester for me! ;-P Thank you.

I've been using Mageia 10 as my daily driver for about two months, and
testing it before that. I dual or multi-boot with other Mageia installs,
but not Windows. For the few things where I simply must have Windows, I
have VirtualBox.

TJ

TJ

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On 30/06/2026 10:12 pm, TJ wrote:

On 2026-06-29 09:12, Daniel70 wrote:

On 29/06/2026 10:59 pm, TJ wrote:

<Snip>

It's now running Mageia 10, with a second install of Mageia 9 for QA
testing purposes while support of it continues. I use it daily.

TJ

Bugger!! I had meant to get this SSD Desk-top Win-11 to dual boot
Mageia 9 BEFORE Mageia 10 was released!! Bugger!

Well, no, I guess NOW, TJ, you are a tester for me! ;-P Thank you.

I've been using Mageia 10 as my daily driver for about two months, and testing it before that. I dual or multi-boot with other Mageia installs,
but not Windows. For the few things where I simply must have Windows, I
have VirtualBox.

TJ

Owww. O.K., I thought I had been checking the MageiaLinux website
reasonable often ... and still seeing V 9.0 as the current release.

Oh., look mageia.org now has Mageia 10 'released' in July 2026 ....
which is in about 90 minutes!! ;-) (O.K., 30 minutes in New Zealand!!)
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Hello Daniel70!

30 Jun 26 13:24, Daniel70 wrote to all:

On 30/06/2026 10:12 pm, TJ wrote:

On 2026-06-29 09:12, Daniel70 wrote:

On 29/06/2026 10:59 pm, TJ wrote:

<Snip>

It's now running Mageia 10, with a second install of Mageia 9 for
QA testing purposes while support of it continues. I use it daily.

TJ

Bugger!! I had meant to get this SSD Desk-top Win-11 to dual boot
Mageia 9 BEFORE Mageia 10 was released!! Bugger!

Well, no, I guess NOW, TJ, you are a tester for me! ;-P Thank you.

I've been using Mageia 10 as my daily driver for about two months,
and testing it before that. I dual or multi-boot with other Mageia
installs, but not Windows. For the few things where I simply must
have Windows, I have VirtualBox.

TJ

Owww. O.K., I thought I had been checking the MageiaLinux website
reasonable often ... and still seeing V 9.0 as the current release.

Oh., look mageia.org now has Mageia 10 'released' in July 2026 ....
which is in about 90 minutes!! ;-) (O.K., 30 minutes in New Zealand!!)

It is a RC - Release Candidate only - not a Formal release.


Vincent



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