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    From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sun Sep 8 16:07:52 2019
    Where I live, we adopted International A4 paper as standard decades ago.
    Some programs recognize it; others don't. (The Brother script doesn't.
    The developers of Gnucash, typically, claimed that the world is no
    bigger than the USA.) Australia is now fully metric.

    This evening I discovered a file /etc/papersize to set the default
    paper. I only had to type "a4" below the commented instructions. There
    is probably nothing for it to do before the next install, which will
    reset it to the default.

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Sun Sep 8 17:08:39 2019
    On Mon, 9 Sep 2019 01:07:52 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    Where I live, we adopted International A4 paper as standard decades ago.
    Some programs recognize it; others don't. (The Brother script doesn't.
    The developers of Gnucash, typically, claimed that the world is no
    bigger than the USA.) Australia is now fully metric.

    This evening I discovered a file /etc/papersize to set the default
    paper. I only had to type "a4" below the commented instructions. There
    is probably nothing for it to do before the next install, which will
    reset it to the default.

    Hopefully, paper-utils will create you an /etc/papersize.rpmnew and not overwrite yout change.

    If it were me, I would create a papersize_changes script to make my mods
    and run it from my install_changes script on new installs.


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun Sep 8 21:45:51 2019
    On 9/9/19 1:07 am, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    Where I live, we adopted International A4 paper as standard decades ago.
     Some programs recognize it; others don't. (The Brother script doesn't.
     The developers of Gnucash, typically, claimed that the world is no
    bigger than the USA.)  Australia is now fully metric.

    This evening I discovered a file /etc/papersize to set the default
    paper.  I only had to type "a4" below the commented instructions.  There is probably nothing for it to do before the next install, which will
    reset it to the default.


    I've always had the letter A4 problem with the printer and when it was included in regional settings - it never stuck.

    Today I tried Start_Menu > Tools > System Tools > Print Settings >
    Printer Properties > Options > Media Size A4.

    And it survived a reboot

    Christmas is early :-)



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    faeychild
    Running plasmashell 5.15.4 on 5.2.10-desktop-1.mga7 kernel.
    Mageia release 7 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-7-x86_64-DVD.iso


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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Wed Sep 11 12:23:03 2019
    On 9/9/19 2:08 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    Hopefully, paper-utils will create you an /etc/papersize.rpmnew and not overwrite yout change.

    But unless I use rpmdrake, I won't be given the choice to keep the
    ..rpmnew file. It will be there, but not easily accessible.

    Universities in the USA are finding that they need to use the size that
    the progressive, civilized world uses, or they can't exchange information.


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    * Origin: Aioe.org NNTP Server (2:250/1@fidonet)
  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Wed Sep 11 12:24:53 2019
    On 9/9/19 6:45 am, faeychild wrote:
    On 9/9/19 1:07 am, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    Where I live, we adopted International A4 paper as standard decades
    ago.   Some programs recognize it; others don't. (The Brother script
    doesn't.   The developers of Gnucash, typically, claimed that the
    world is no bigger than the USA.)  Australia is now fully metric.

    This evening I discovered a file /etc/papersize to set the default
    paper.  I only had to type "a4" below the commented instructions.
    There is probably nothing for it to do before the next install, which
    will reset it to the default.


    I've always had the letter A4 problem with the printer and when it was included in regional settings - it never stuck.

    Today I tried Start_Menu > Tools > System Tools > Print Settings >
    Printer Properties > Options > Media Size A4.

    And it survived a reboot

    Christmas is early  :-)



    Yes, that is one way, but it is an extra step. I am hoping that with papersize, it will be right the first time.


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    * Origin: Aioe.org NNTP Server (2:250/1@fidonet)
  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Wed Sep 11 13:28:23 2019
    On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 21:23:03 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 9/9/19 2:08 am, Bit Twister wrote:
    Hopefully, paper-utils will create you an /etc/papersize.rpmnew and not
    overwrite yout change.

    But unless I use rpmdrake, I won't be given the choice to keep the
    .rpmnew file. It will be there, but not easily accessible.

    I would suggest they are easily accessible but are not easily maintainable.

    The smart system administrator will check each new release of a program
    to see if it has support for drop in configuration file if needing to
    make changes. If so, create the drop in file(s) with desired changes.

    That removes the .rpmnew files for those apps.

    Current check of all drop in files on my system shows
    $ locate \.d/ | wc -l
    1533

    For the non-rpmdrake instances, it helps to parse an .rpmnew list
    and run a change script to fold in desired changes.

    My install_updates script runs my ck_4_rpmnew script to tell me about
    any .rpmnew files and what to do/run to fold in my changes.

    snippet example
    fstab) echo -e "# fix:\n rm --force $_rpmnew_fn" >> $_fix_fn ;;
    dhcpd.conf) echo -e "# fix:\n dhcpd_conf_changes" >> $_fix_fn ;;

    If $_fix_fn exists, script calls xmessage to give me a pop up with
    what to do.


    Universities in the USA are finding that they need to use the size that
    the progressive, civilized world uses, or they can't exchange information.

    I do not understand how paper size relates to "they can't exchange information"

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Thu Sep 12 01:26:50 2019
    On 9/11/19 8:28 AM, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 21:23:03 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:



    Universities in the USA are finding that they need to use the size that
    the progressive, civilized world uses, or they can't exchange information.

    I do not understand how paper size relates to "they can't exchange
    information"


    Neither do I. I suppose he means "exchange information" with the rest of
    the world, but even that makes little sense. Who needs paper to exchange information these days?

    But Doug will be happy to learn that it isn't always all sunshine and
    roses here in the uncivilized backwoods. Back in the early days of
    Mageia's Plasma implementation. Plasma apps like Okular and Gwenview
    would default to A4 paper size, and attempting to change that default
    had no effect. The next time you wanted to print a pdf, Okular would
    default to A4.

    It was annoying, but not the end of the world. I didn't turn to drugs or drink, and continued to sleep well at night. I didn't rend my garments,
    or tear out my hair. I just got along with it.

    And eventually, a Plasma update corrected the problem. Plasma apps
    started paying attention to the settings the way I set them when I
    installed my HP printers with MCC.

    TJ

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