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    From Grimble@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 7 13:58:21 2021
    Getting to learn dnf, but a question arises:
    dnf check-update shows one update available, but the mgaapplet shows 7
    updates available. As far as I can se, the correct repositories are
    enabled. Any ideas?
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  • From Jim Beard@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 7 15:35:25 2021
    On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 13:58:21 +0000, Grimble wrote:

    Getting to learn dnf, but a question arises:
    dnf check-update shows one update available, but the mgaapplet shows 7 updates available. As far as I can se, the correct repositories are
    enabled. Any ideas?

    First, I am confident different repositories are involved for dnf
    and urpmi.

    On my machine, The update rpms dnf says are available are later
    versions than the ones I have installed. You can go to Mageia 7
    mcc, to install software, and search for Opera and Brave to see
    what urpmi currently installs for Mageia 7.

    Second, urpmi (mgaapplet) may include more dependent packages
    that must, should, or could be included with a principal package.
    Mageia splits up and merges rpm packages that come as a group,
    And its decisions on which/how manypackages to offer often differs
    from that of other distributions. They same may be true for dnf.


    [myaccount]$ dnf check-update
    created by dnf config-manager from https://brav 53 kB/s | 8.9 kB
    00:00
    determining the fastest mirror (10 hosts).. done.-- B/s | 0 B
    --:-- ETA
    Mageia 7 - x86_64 8.5 MB/s | 35 MB
    00:04
    Mageia 7 - x86_64 - Updates 9.8 MB/s | 47 MB
    00:04
    Opera packages 13 kB/s | 13 kB
    00:01

    brave-browser.x86_64 1.21.74-1 brave-browser-rpm- release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_
    brave-keyring.noarch 1.8-1 brave-browser-rpm- release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_
    opera-stable.x86_64 74.0.3911.203-0
    opera

    [myaccount]#
    su -
    Password:
    [root@mymachinel ~]# urpmi-update
    Script started, file is /root/pull_updates.log
    medium "Core Release (distrib1)" is up-to-date
    medium "Core Updates (distrib3)" is up-to-date
    medium "Core Backports (distrib7)" is up-to-date
    medium "Nonfree Release (distrib11)" is up-to-date
    medium "Nonfree Updates (distrib13)" is up-to-date
    medium "Nonfree Backports (distrib17)" is up-to-date
    medium "Tainted Release (distrib21)" is up-to-date
    medium "Tainted Updates (distrib23)" is up-to-date
    medium "Tainted Backports (distrib27)" is up-to-date
    medium "Core 32bit Release (distrib31)" is up-to-date
    medium "Core 32bit Updates (distrib32)" is up-to-date
    medium "Core 32bit Backports (distrib34)" is up-to-date
    medium "Nonfree 32bit Release (distrib36)" is up-to-date
    medium "Nonfree 32bit Updates (distrib37)" is up-to-date
    medium "Nonfree 32bit Backports (distrib39)" is up-to-date
    medium "Tainted 32bit Release (distrib41)" is up-to-date
    medium "Tainted 32bit Updates (distrib42)" is up-to-date
    medium "Tainted 32bit Backports (distrib44)" is up-to-date
    Packages are up to date

    Cheers!

    jim b.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 7 21:25:00 2021
    On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 08:58:21 -0500, Grimble <[email protected]> wrote:

    Getting to learn dnf, but a question arises:
    dnf check-update shows one update available, but the mgaapplet shows 7 updates available. As far as I can se, the correct repositories are
    enabled. Any ideas?

    What's the output of "urpmq --list-media active" and "dnf repolist"?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Grimble@2:250/1 to All on Mon Mar 8 11:58:34 2021
    On 07/03/2021 21:25, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 08:58:21 -0500, Grimble <[email protected]> wrote:

    Getting to learn dnf, but a question arises:
    dnf check-update shows one update available, but the mgaapplet shows 7
    updates available. As far  as I can se, the correct repositories are
    enabled. Any ideas?

    What's the output of "urpmq --list-media active" and "dnf repolist"?

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    urpmq --list-media active
    Core Release
    Core Updates
    Nonfree Release
    Nonfree Updates
    Core 32bit Release
    Core 32bit Updates
    Nonfree 32bit Release
    Nonfree 32bit Updates
    Core Release (distrib1)
    Core Updates (distrib3)
    Nonfree Release (distrib11)
    Nonfree Updates (distrib13)
    Core 32bit Release (distrib31)
    Core 32bit Updates (distrib32)
    Nonfree 32bit Release (distrib36)
    Nonfree 32bit Updates (distrib37)
    google-chrome

    dnf repolist
    Last metadata expiration check: 0:32:47 ago on Mon 08 Mar 2021 10:49:36 GMT. repo id repo name status
    google-chrome google-chrome 3
    mageia-x86_64 Mageia 7 - x86_64 29,882
    updates-x86_64 Mageia 7 - x86_64 - Updates 13,639

    I didn't make a note of the 6 updates that were available (it was only
    6, not 7), but I've just checked back through journal - 5 of the 6 were non-free (6th was Chrome), so that pinpoints the difference.
    Thanks,
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    Mageia release 7 (Official) for x86_64

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Mon Mar 8 13:46:45 2021
    On Mon, 08 Mar 2021 06:58:34 -0500, Grimble <[email protected]> wrote:
    urpmq --list-media active
    Core Release
    Core Updates
    Nonfree Release
    Nonfree Updates
    Core 32bit Release
    Core 32bit Updates
    Nonfree 32bit Release
    Nonfree 32bit Updates
    Core Release (distrib1)
    Core Updates (distrib3)
    Nonfree Release (distrib11)
    Nonfree Updates (distrib13)
    Core 32bit Release (distrib31)
    Core 32bit Updates (distrib32)
    Nonfree 32bit Release (distrib36)
    Nonfree 32bit Updates (distrib37)
    google-chrome

    So the Mageia Mirrors have been added twice. Two different mirrors or a mistake?
    If the same mirror has been added twice, it won't hurt anything except taking more time when checking for updates or searching for available packages in rpmdrake.

    dnf repolist
    Last metadata expiration check: 0:32:47 ago on Mon 08 Mar 2021 10:49:36 GMT. repo id repo name status google-chrome google-chrome 3 mageia-x86_64 Mageia 7 - x86_64 29,882 updates-x86_64 Mageia 7 - x86_64 - Updates 13,639

    I didn't make a note of the 6 updates that were available (it was only
    6, not 7), but I've just checked back through journal - 5 of the 6 were non-free (6th was Chrome), so that pinpoints the difference.

    I was expecting something like that, but wanted to be sure.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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