Hi,

On 15 Sep 05 22:41, Neil Williams wrote to Benny Pedersen:
about: "Re: Fwd: Amiga = Aros":

SEEN-BY: 39:13/0@amiganet 14/0 15/0 16/0 17/0 24/0 39/0 136/1 .20
140/100
SEEN-BY: 150/200 711/16 901/0

Are this lot ghosts?

Some: 24/0, 901/0, 40:711/16 are in my mailers config but no longer active, and marked as such... But apparently my mailer still put's them in the seen-by's?

And 15/0 39/0 150/200 that's me 3 times on different levels...


Btw: your email with the fidopkt got marked as spam, by my provider:

X-XS4ALL-Spam-Score: 5.822 (*****) DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_50_75
X-XS4ALL-Spam: YES

I had to rescue it from my pre-filter backup. I've reported this to my provider, so they might fix it...


Bye, Wilfred.


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Hi,
On Sunday September 25 2005, Wilfred Van Velzen said to Neil Williams:

Btw: your email with the fidopkt got marked as spam, by my provider:

I had that problem here too, but as I run the mail server I could feed it into SpamAssassin's sa-learn directly so it knew I wanted fido packets.

X-XS4ALL-Spam-Score: 5.822 (*****) DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_50_75 X-XS4ALL-Spam: YES

Hmm, Y2K? I'll look into that, might reduce the spam-score a bit.
Otherwise quite a high rating for just some encoded binary.


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Neil Williams, [email protected]
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Hi,

On 01 Oct 05 13:30, Neil Williams wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
about: "AmigaNet (Was: Re: Fwd: Amiga = Aros)":

I had that problem here too, but as I run the mail server I could feed
it into SpamAssassin's sa-learn directly so it knew I wanted fido
packets.

X-XS4ALL-Spam-Score: 5.822 (*****)
DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_50_75 X-XS4ALL-Spam: YES

Hmm, Y2K? I'll look into that, might reduce the spam-score a bit. Otherwise quite a high rating for just some encoded binary.

They mark it as spam when the score is above 5. So your messages just qualify. :-(

I reported at my provider but no response jet, so I do it again because this pkt had the same problem...

The year in the date is spelled as '05' not '2005' and the from line only contains the email adres not a name between quotes ("). Those might be things you can change?

Bye, Wilfred.


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Hi,
On Saturday October 01 2005, Wilfred Van Velzen said to Neil Williams:

X-XS4ALL-Spam-Score: 5.822 (*****)
DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_50_75 X-XS4ALL-Spam: YES

I reported at my provider but no response jet, so I do it again
because this pkt had the same problem...

Can you whitelist the address? Either on their side or yours? The problem is that no matter how well presented the email is (and I accept that it isn't completely correct) it's still a big load of uuencoded or base64 encoded text which looks just like a lot of spam.

I still like Fido for lack of spam and general lack of people posting huge HTML emails around, but it still affects us :-)
(Even worse, I gate email and news to my BBS!)

The year in the date is spelled as '05' not '2005' and the from line
only contains the email adres not a name between quotes ("). Those
might be things you can change?

Yup, testing on this outbound packet - hopefully enough to lower the score to just under 5..

Amazing; it's about two years since I made any changes to Zeus then two come along at once. The other was adding timezone support to the NNTP client, so I can reliably use news from the other side of the world, as my ISP's server breaks the RFCs..


--
Neil Williams, [email protected]
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* Originally in NEWS_AMY
* Crossposted in SYSOP_AMY
Hi,

On 01 Oct 05 13:30, Neil Williams wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
about: "AmigaNet (Was: Re: Fwd: Amiga = Aros)":

X-XS4ALL-Spam-Score: 5.822 (*****)
DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_50_75 X-XS4ALL-Spam: YES

Hmm, Y2K? I'll look into that, might reduce the spam-score a bit. Otherwise quite a high rating for just some encoded binary.

I've got word from my provider. They reduced the score for DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K, which was 4.4, which was "a bit" on the high side. So your fido mail should get through from now on.

They also asked me to "strongly" point out RFC 1123 (STD0003) to the maintainer of the zeus software, when I came accross him! ;-)

Bye, Wilfred.


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Hi,

On 08 Oct 05 11:20, Neil Williams wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
about: "Re: AmigaNet (Was: Re: Fwd: Amiga = Aros)":

X-XS4ALL-Spam-Score: 5.822 (*****)
DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_50_75 X-XS4ALL-Spam: YES

I reported at my provider but no response jet, so I do it again
because this pkt had the same problem...

Can you whitelist the address? Either on their side or yours? The problem is that no matter how well presented the email is (and I accept that it isn't completely correct) it's still a big load of uuencoded or base64 encoded text which looks just like a lot of spam.

A whitelist on my side might be possible, but not neccesary anymore: see my mail from today: My provider fixed the spam score...

I still like Fido for lack of spam and general lack of people posting
huge HTML emails around, but it still affects us :-) (Even worse, I
gate email and news to my BBS!)

Indeed...

The year in the date is spelled as '05' not '2005' and the from line
only contains the email adres not a name between quotes ("). Those
might be things you can change?

Yup, testing on this outbound packet - hopefully enough to lower the score to just under 5..

Here's the header of the email:

From: "Zeus FTN EMailGate" <[email protected]>
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 11:27:54 GMT
ReplyTo: [email protected]
Subject: FidoMail [0109608b.SA0]
X-Mailer: Zeus 1.5 #3E9
To: [email protected]
Organization: The Killing Ground BBS
Message-ID: <[email protected]in> X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner
X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.70.249.1]
X-XS4ALL-DNSBL-Checked: mxdrop3.xs4all.nl checked 212.23.3.140 against DNS blacklists
X-XS4ALL-Spam-Score: 1.137 (*) UPPERCASE_50_75
X-XS4ALL-Spam: NO

So, you fixed it!

Amazing; it's about two years since I made any changes to Zeus then
two come along at once. The other was adding timezone support to the
NNTP client, so I can reliably use news from the other side of the
world, as my ISP's server breaks the RFCs..

;)

Bye, Wilfred.


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Hello Wilfred!

25 Sep 05 22:33, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Neil Williams:

Btw: your email with the fidopkt got marked as spam, by my provider:

X-XS4ALL-Spam-Score: 5.822 (*****) DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_50_75
X-XS4ALL-Spam: YES

seems like sendmail with mailscanner ? :-)

I had to rescue it from my pre-filter backup. I've reported this to
my provider, so they might fix it...

and change to postfix :-)

PS: why should fido pkt needs email in the first place ?

Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Hello Neil!

01 Oct 05 13:30, Neil Williams wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Btw: your email with the fidopkt got marked as spam, by my provider:

I had that problem here too, but as I run the mail server I could feed
it into SpamAssassin's sa-learn directly so it knew I wanted fido packets.

yep i have maked a fidonet.cf for spamassasssin :-)

X-XS4ALL-Spam-Score: 5.822 (*****)
DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_50_75 X-XS4ALL-Spam: YES

Hmm, Y2K? I'll look into that, might reduce the spam-score a bit. Otherwise quite a high rating for just some encoded binary.

if you want to get some ideer on how i make my fidonet.cf i can put it on my ftp, room for extension :-)

Regards Benny

... there can only be one way of life, and it works :)

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Hi,

On 12 Oct 05 02:15, Benny Pedersen wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:
about: "AmigaNet (Was: Re: Fwd: Amiga = Aros)":

Btw: your email with the fidopkt got marked as spam, by my provider:

X-XS4ALL-Spam-Score: 5.822 (*****)
DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,NO_REAL_NAME,UPPERCASE_50_75
X-XS4ALL-Spam: YES

seems like sendmail with mailscanner ? :-)

I had to rescue it from my pre-filter backup. I've reported this to
my provider, so they might fix it...

and change to postfix :-)

My provider won't change to postfix, that has already been an issue in a local newsgroup... ;)

PS: why should fido pkt needs email in the first place ?

Your right, but that is how it is setup now... "Don't fix it if it ain't broken"

Bye, Wilfred.


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